Odin imo.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Man, everyone and their mother was afraid of the Serpent. I don't remember the last time a character got that much lip service.
I remember like all the Hell Lords in Marvel trying to come up with a way to defeat him, it was crazy. Surfer came back to Earth because he sensed a power great enough to overcome even the Power Cosmic. Loki had to freaking use Twilight's shadow to retcon a moment of weakness to give Thor his chance.
But the final battle was so goddamn anti-climactic (Typical Fraction) and Odin owned him so badly in the past. Does his armor and sword really make so much of a difference?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe's pretty much only lip service and breaking Cap's shield...
Odin imo.Man, everyone and their mother was afraid of the Serpent. I don't remember the last time a character got that much lip service.
I remember like all the Hell Lords in Marvel trying to come up with a way to defeat him, it was crazy. Surfer came back to Earth because he sensed a power great enough to overcome even the Power Cosmic. Loki had to freaking use Twilight's shadow to retcon a moment of weakness to give Thor his chance.
But the final battle was so goddamn anti-climactic (Typical Fraction) and Odin owned him so badly in the past. Does his armor and sword really make so much of a difference?
But yeah, his hype was crazy, actually, I think his hype was purely Gillen.
The funny thing is that the Odin Sword isn't even the original one, and was just a random sword with no feats that happens to be called the "Odin Sword". And the armor seemed like it was more for mental protection, since The Serpent never even touched Odin...
Of course the protection, but for how much? Meh.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He's pretty much only lip service and breaking Cap's shield...But yeah, his hype was crazy, actually, I think his hype was purely Gillen.
The funny thing is that the Odin Sword isn't even the original one, and was just a random sword with no feats that happens to be called the "Odin Sword"
I only read that crappy event once, but wasn't Odin shitting his pants over him as well? Odin went to the extreme of slaughtering an entire planet and wiping all memory of the Serpent from the Nine Worlds. Even resorted to trap him because he couldn't kill him (Their was a lot of complicated prophecy stuff, and Thor would be Odin's sacrifice etc.). I thought the Serpent would at least be far more powerful than Odin.
I assumed it was the Odin Sword. I know it wouldn't make sense but the entire nature of one of their main plot points is that Gods have stories that are in constant flux yet all true. Basically his -and Gillen's- way of excusing all the conflicting continuity.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYeah. Although that whole slaughtering thing iirc was so his influence wouldn't spread.
I only read that crappy event once, but wasn't Odin shitting his pants over him as well? Odin went to the extreme of slaughtering an entire planet and wiping all memory of the Serpent from the Nine Worlds. Even resorted to trap him because he couldn't kill him (Their was a lot of complicated prophecy stuff, and Thor would be Odin's sacrifice etc.). I thought the Serpent would at least be far more powerful than Odin.I assumed it was the Odin Sword. I know it wouldn't make sense but the entire nature of one of their main plot points is that Gods have stories that are in constant flux yet all true. Basically his -and Gillen's- way of excusing all the conflicting continuity.
Has the big universe ending Odin Sword been seen since Arishem?
It would have been some rando sword if it wasn't the big guy. Probably the same one he used to beat up Thor when he had the Destroyer armor on.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftThe last time the Gaint odinsword was scene Thor "as a blood giant" used it to break the world tree during the 2nd or 3rd issue on Odin's return
Yeah. Although that whole slaughtering thing iirc was so his influence wouldn't spread.
He still seemed like he was scurred of the Serpent.
And then Odin smacks his ass without being fused with his other brothers... Fraction must have been sitting there thinking "How can I retroactively Zop this entire event?" And then it hit himHas the big universe ending Odin Sword been seen since Arishem?
It would have been some rando sword if it wasn't the big guy. Probably the same one he used to beat up Thor when he had the Destroyer armor on.
Originally posted by h1a8
If Odin can beat Destroyer easily then wtf is the purpose of the Destroyer?IMO, Destroyer should beat average Odin.
...what?
The Destroyer was intended to fight Celestials, but not under its own power. Odin needed the power of all of Asgard to do so, and even then, it wasn't enough.
"Average" Odin would be able to shut down the Destroyer because he created it, not unlike how Odin is beyond Mjolnir. It would be beyond stupid if Odin made a weapon he couldn't stop if it ever fell into the wrong hands.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI'm referring to a straight fight. Of course Odin can shut Destroyer down. But that's irrelevant.
...what?The Destroyer was intended to fight Celestials, but not under its own power. Odin needed the power of all of Asgard to do so, and even then, it wasn't enough.
"Average" Odin would be able to shut down the Destroyer because he created it, not unlike how Odin is beyond Mjolnir. It would be beyond stupid if Odin made a weapon he couldn't stop if it ever fell into the wrong hands.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm referring to a straight fight. Of course Odin can shut Destroyer down. But that's irrelevant.
In a straight fight, he could destroy it or damage it significantly.
As Bran said, the Destroyer on its own or even with a host was never intended to be equal to Odin, let alone more powerful than him. It's the armor coupled with Odin's own power in addition to the Odin Sword that ultimately makes it so powerful.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In a straight fight, he could destroy it or damage it significantly.As Bran said, the Destroyer on its own or even with a host was never intended to be equal to Odin, let alone more powerful than him. It's the armor coupled with Odin's own power in addition to the Odin Sword that ultimately makes it so powerful.
I disagree. I think Destroyer is just as durable as Mangog (or close) but with higher power output and strength.
Odin probably can damage it but IMO not significant enough before succumbing to it's power. It would be a good fight but I think Odin would lose in a straight fight (even with joe blow animating it). Remember Destroyer just doesn't have Odin's power but a portion of all the skyfather's power from each pantheon.
I disagree with Bran since the Destroyer is also used to guard Asgard from threats and not just be donned by Odin to fight the Celestials. That's its main purpose after the Celestial event.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As Bran said, the Destroyer on its own or even with a host was never intended to be equal to Odin, let alone more powerful than him. It's the armor coupled with Odin's own power in addition to the Odin Sword that ultimately makes it so powerful.
