CW Maul vs Savage and Ventress

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CW Maul vs Savage and Ventress

Alright, so basically we have Ventress and Savage vs Dooku again, but this time Maul takes his place in this CW bout. Can he overcome the odds?

Setting: Chamber where Ventress, Savage, and Dooku fought.
State: Bloodlusted
Restrictions: No participant can run off via escape pod

My initial reaction is that the team takes slight majority.
Dooku relied heavily on FL to keep Savage at bay while fighting off Ventress. This won't happen here.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
My initial reaction is that the team takes slight majority.
Dooku relied heavily on FL to keep Savage at bay while fighting off Ventress. This won't happen here.

Fair enough, Dooku seemed to barely have the edge during the duel.

Team wins about every time.

Considering how quickly Maul was able to stomp Savage, I think he has a decent chance of winning if he manages to separate them effectively.

Not really. Maul lacks lightning and speed to do so.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Not really. Maul lacks lightning and speed to do so.

Well, he has pretty good TK anyways (beyond Ventress at least).
In Revival, it took Maul all but a few seconds to put Savage down for the count, not FL required. And it's not like Ventress or Savage are faster than Maul.

Savage Opress is comparable to Maul in terms of force power. Ventress is pretty powerful, having brought down a ceiling.

Individually, he should take a majority against either, but together, they win every time.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Savage Opress is comparable to Maul in terms of force power. Ventress is pretty powerful, having brought down a ceiling.

Individually, he should take a majority against either, but together, they win every time.

Agree but one on one I think he takes more than just a majority.

Also I can see him having a chance at defeating them both using Jar Kai. His Jar Kai skills have always been said to be exceptional.

If Kenobi can take a win against Opress and Maul fighting in such a manner, I'm sure Maul could take a minority against Ventress and Opress.

I think Dooku had trouble with the Opress/Ventress duo being taken by surprise- Being challenged and finding out out of nowhere that Ventress is alive and Opress is a traitor. But he's already shown a better performance against a better duo - ROTS Kenobi and Skywalker.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Agree but one on one I think he takes more than just a majority

Are you suggesting Maul takes 10/10 against Opress and Ventress individually?

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Originally posted by Intrepid37
Are you suggesting Maul takes 10/10 against Opress and Ventress individually?

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Well yeah I would assume so looking at the ease with which he dealt with Opress. Maul is clearly above those 2 Imho.

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Originally posted by Intrepid37
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Yeah, Maul's almost certainly better than either Opress or Ventress, but he's not gonna stomp them in a typical battle nor is he guaranteed victory in 10/10 matches. Opress has comparable feats to Maul, which is remarkable since he's a relative amateur. Ventress is, IMHO, the weakest of the three but even she's a challenge and a half.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yeah, Maul's almost certainly better than either Opress or Ventress, but he's not gonna stomp them in a typical battle nor is he guaranteed victory in 10/10 matches. Opress has comparable feats to Maul, which is remarkable since he's a relative amateur. Ventress is, IMHO, the weakest of the three but even she's a challenge and a half.

Fair enough. I'd say team 8-9/10 times mostly.

Maul can use lightning FYI--he employs the rare red form. Secondly, don't you think his new pre-TPM height would make it difficult to perform a disarming move against Savage, who is now heads taller than him. Though, his Jar'Kai is very impressive, and he recently gained the darksaber. He more than rivals Asajj's Jar'Kai, he knows a lot of Savage's moves, but considering the fact Savage has more Force potential than Maul, I'd consider a nice Dathomirian Rage attack. Also, Ventress should be able to put up as good a saber fight as she did against Anakin & Dooku. I'm not sure who'd win, but a lot of you should consider this.

So I think the consensus is that Maul would take a large majority against each individually. But the duo combined would take a large majority against Maul.

Indeed. Savage can be outmaneuvered and Ventress can be outpowered, but Ventress won't be outmaneuvered and Savage won't be outpowered.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

Yeah, Maul's almost certainly better than either Opress or Ventress, but he's not gonna stomp them in a typical battle nor is he guaranteed victory in 10/10 matches. Opress has comparable feats to Maul, which is remarkable since he's a relative amateur. Ventress is, IMHO, the weakest of the three but even she's a challenge and a half.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Agree but one on one I think he takes more than just a majority.

Also I can see him having a chance at defeating them both using Jar Kai. His Jar Kai skills have always been said to be exceptional.

If Kenobi can take a win against Opress and Maul fighting in such a manner, I'm sure Maul could take a minority against Ventress and Opress.

I think Dooku had trouble with the Opress/Ventress duo being taken by surprise- Being challenged and finding out out of nowhere that Ventress is alive and Opress is a traitor. But he's already shown a better performance against a better duo - ROTS Kenobi and Skywalker.

Good point, I agree.

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