Odin vs Hawk God

Started by Mr Master2 pages

Originally posted by Sundipped

@Mr.M
Good to see we agree for a change. 😎


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I still got you on that thread, haven't had time to fully disclose,
but chopping at it day by day in a save doc. I'll be bumpin that soon. 😛

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On with the thread ...

Hawkgod may have been very close to Eternity in power,
but definitely subject to the LT's authority:

Regardless, he was definitely "Multiversal" ...

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In the sense that, if conscious space-time (Eternity/Infinity) allow it,
he can manipulate said concepts ... on that scale. (multiversal)

I also re-checked the story,
Hawkgod did indeed murder the entire race of Watchers at one point,
only one survived.

As a Concept,
they're not known to employ weapons/outside sources to exercise their power,
so I'm guessing he did this under his own power.

HawkGod looks like he should be a superhero in the Simpsons.

Odin loses. That old bag is out of his league here.

Originally posted by Raisen
Feats are important and needed for the vast majority of characters, but you have to take it for granted when guys are said to be multiversal and peers to Cosmic Beings. I'm sure nobody wants to see Death fist fighting The Avengers in Manhattan. It's stupid and wouldn't make any sense. Speaking of which, how many feats does Death have? LOL. Does anybody think that Odin beats her?

She allegedly destroyed the Cancerverse but there's context behind that. That may be her biggest feat.

Seeing how Odin struggled with Galactus I hope to God no one thinks Odin is superior but I wouldn't be surprised if a few people vouch for Odin.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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I still got you on that thread, haven't had time to fully disclose,
but chopping at it day by day in a save doc. I'll be bumpin that soon. 😛

I can tell you now it'll have a 0.000000000000001% chance of convincing me but I'll take a peep at it. 😉

Originally posted by Sundipped
He threatened to curbstomp both Eternity and Scathan during that Protege fiasco. With him being as hot headed as he is, I don't doubt he committed genocide against the Watchers.

Hawkgod was able to have an effect upon Protege, who at the time was at the height of his power.

^Before this, Protege was going toe to toe with a Beyonder who one shot vaporized Mephisto. I'd say he's further up on the scale beyond skyfather.


His threat towards Scathan was pointed out as naive bravado by Eternity.

He wasn't a threat to Eternity. At all. Him making disrespectful comments is more or less similar to when Protege and the Beyonder attempted to disintegrate Eternity, and Eternity ended up trolling them.

Mephisto outside his realm is nowhere near a skyfather-level being. So that is basically not an evidence for Hawk God being above a high-level skyfather like Odin.

On a side-note,

@MrM: I recently heard an interesting theory regarding the incident with the LT and the Eye of Agamotto in the Protege arc. In this theory, it is suggested that since the LT was clandestinely drawing power from the Amulet, therefore it might have been the Anulet's power which got absorbed instead of the LT's, which in turn could imply that Scathan was not beyond the LT in that arc. I'd like to hear your perspective on this.

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Where did you get that theory from? Comicvine?
That makes no sense at all. Scathan did nothing but provide a muzzle and approved of Protege being bfred by LT into the hourglass of time. Protege was done copying powers before LT even suggested using the amulet.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
His threat towards Scathan was pointed out as naive bravado by Eternity.

He wasn't a threat to Eternity. At all. Him making disrespectful comments is more or less similar to when Protege and the Beyonder attempted to disintegrate Eternity, and Eternity ended up trolling them.

Mephisto outside his realm is nowhere near a skyfather-level being. So that is basically not an evidence for Hawk God being above a high-level skyfather like Odin.

Forget about Hawkgod's short temper, did you see the scan of Hawkgod being multiversal? Did you see the scan of Hawkgod visibly affecting Protege who was in his most powerful state?

Just to give you an indication of the levels we're dealing with, Protege was deemed so much of a threat after copying Beyonders powers that it attracted the full attention of LT and at this point, Eternity is now beginning to comprehend the meaning of fear. This Beyonder had the ability to formerly imprison Protege with a thought with Protege not being able to do a damn thing about it, and create billions of lifeforms from nothing with only a thought. Mephisto gets one shot in his realm as well as out of it.

^ The main point is that Hawkgod affected a Protege that was BEYOND this level. After taking all of this into consideration, even a blind man can see Odin is out of his league here.

There's no point in arguing. Sometimes people know their wrong but just won't admit it. The dude is stubborn.

^You are trying too hard to get the banhammer dropped on you. A better way would be just to mindlessly make spam threads. Transparently baiting others isn't going to give you what want, I am afraid.

Originally posted by Sundipped
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Where did you get that theory from? Comicvine?
That makes no sense at all. Scathan did nothing but provide a muzzle and approved of Protege being bfred by LT into the hourglass of time. Protege was done copying powers before LT even suggested using the amulet.

Forget about Hawkgod's short temper, did you see the scan of Hawkgod being multiversal? Did you see the scan of Hawkgod visibly affecting Protege who was in his most powerful state?

Just to give you an indication of the levels we're dealing with, Protege was deemed so much of a threat after copying Beyonders powers that it attracted the full attention of LT and at this point, Eternity is now beginning to comprehend the meaning of fear. This Beyonder had the ability to formerly imprison Protege with a thought with Protege not being able to do a damn thing about it, and create billions of lifeforms from nothing with only a thought. Mephisto gets one shot in his realm as well as out of it.

^ The main point is that Hawkgod affected a Protege that was [b]BEYOND this level. After taking all of this into consideration, even a blind man can see Odin is out of his league here. [/B]


I'll get back to you in a while.