Galactus Engine vs Imperiex Prime

Started by Philosophía8 pages
Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, I know galaxies were *ultimately* destroyed. This so-called 'Hollowing' was not instantly accomplished, however. That is to say: Imperiex certainly did not pop in and gesturely erase whole galaxies via one massive entropy rift-- his Probes were literally sent to individual planets within the galaxy to 'Hollow' them one by one. We saw this when he 'Hollowed' Maxima's galaxy(a task which evidently took roughly 2 months to complete), and again when he tried 'Hollowing' the earth and it's galaxy. Etc.

Point: if Imperiex could wave his hand and destroy entire galaxies(or even entire planets) via entropy, then there would be no need for him to send Probes to commence said 'Hollowing'-- there would be no need for Imperiex to engage anyone physically. He could simply release large-scale entropy and save himself a LOT of time/effort... But that wasn't the case.

Imperiex's purpose was recycling and starting anew. He wasn't erasing it, so much as he was collapsing it and transforming it into energy - and then restarting the cycle.

So it's not so much that he could or could not release entropy and annihilate the Universe, as much as it was the fact that was not his intent.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Philosophía
Imperiex's purpose was recycling and starting anew. He wasn't erasing it, so much as he was collapsing it and transforming it into energy - and then restarting the cycle.

So it's not so much that he could or could not release entropy and annihilate the Universe, as much as it was the fact that was not his intent.

Which goes back to my original point:
Originally posted by Galan007
While I have no doubt that Imperiex can unleash a massive/large-scale Entropy rift, he never actually did so on panel-- thus I cannot call it an 'in character' tactic for him. For that reason alone, the GE wins.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not sure how he has a chance against the Galactus Engine? Didn't it take most of the High End Abstracts to hold it back and almost all of them died in the process?

Galactus, Aegis, Tenebrous and a large horde of Celestials failed to push it back, let alone defeat it.

Aegis got seemingly destroyed during the battle, while the rest of the Abstracts retreated, leaving only Galactus to defend at the Fault.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Cogito
Only Aegis is known to have been killed, and it wasn't the GE that killed her.

It's not clear cut. The battle was taking place on a metaphysical level, and her physical body being shattered by a bunch of fodder MAOs(who were getting one-shotted by Quasar and Surfer in that issue), was in all likelihood the manifestation of her defeat at the hands(or rather appendages) of the GE.

Cogito Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's not clear cut. The battle was taking place on a metaphysical level, and her physical body being shattered by a bunch of fodder MAOs(who were getting one-shotted by Quasar and Surfer in that issue), was in all likelihood the manifestation of her defeat at the hands(or rather appendages) of the GE.

Maybe. We'll likely never know for sure. Either way, Aegis is the only known "abstract" that was killed, and she's not that impressive.

That said, absorbing the assault of the the 616 group is most impressive.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Cogito
That said, absorbing the assault of the the 616 group is most impressive.

That wasn't all the Galactus Engine did.

Cogito Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That wasn't all the Galactus Engine did.

That's all we know it did for sure. What are you thinking of?

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Cogito
That's all we know it did for sure. What are you thinking of?

We know for sure that it was overwhelming the Abstracts in their metaphyscial battle. We know for sure that it forced eevry single Abstract(sans Galactus) to retreat from the battlefield.

So yeah, that's not all it did.

Golgo13 Senior Member

What feats did these celestials have?

TheGodKiller True Killer

Beating up skyfathers, creating the Marvel Multiverse, easily taking control of Franklin Richards' pocket universe, scaring Cube Beings etc. etc.

Branlor Swift Dead

Yeah but Imperiex killed Doomsday, and he can shoot entropy, so there

TheGodKiller True Killer

Yeah, but entropy slags Celestials to death, so... 😉

Golgo13 Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Beating up skyfathers, creating the Marvel Multiverse, easily taking control of Franklin Richards' pocket universe, scaring Cube Beings etc. etc.

So, Iron Man level? 😉

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, Iron Man level? 😉

Iron Man level is much higher than Imperiex level.

Golgo13 Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Iron Man level is much higher than Imperiex level.

Maybe if his power was reduced by 99%. 😛

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Golgo13
Maybe if his power was reduced by 99%. 😛

You're right. Iron Man could get lowered down to Imperiex's level if his power got reduced by 99%.

Golgo13 Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You're right.

I stopped after I read that. Thanks. 😎

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Golgo13
I stopped after I read that. Thanks. 😎

Your loss. There was insightful revelation in the rest of my post.

Golgo13 Senior Member
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Your loss. There was insightful revelation in the rest of my post.

I'll take your word for it. Now go see IM 3!!

TheGodKiller True Killer

Why? It's a shitty movie, with a shitty storyline.