Originally posted by red sabre
i dont know who Heimdell is but can he survive if achilles cut his eyes? stub him in the throat?
Heimdell is a Norse god and gatekeeper of Asgaurd as well as guardian of the rainbow bridge.
http://marvel.com/universe/Heimdall
Originally posted by red sabre
i dont know who Heimdell is but can he survive if achilles cut his eyes? stub him in the throat?
The guy from the Thor movie that guarded the Bi-frost bridge, survived being frozen by the Casket of Ancient Winters, shattered the ice block by basically flexing his muscles. Had senses sharp enough to see/hear across dimensions.
well i dont know how we can compare, 1 is a comic book/mythology character and the other is a movie/mythology character.
in the movies we didnt see feats from Heimdell to understand whats his level overall, however i dont think he can compare to achilles as far as speed, tactics, battle experience.
i think it all comes down to can achilles hurt him or not, if Heimdell is as durable as your average asgardian than achilles wins.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as the average asgardian is multiple times stronger and more durable than a human, how would being an "average" asgardian allow Achilles to win?
because this is not about strength, its about can achilles cut him or not, and even thor himself has sometimes issues with being got, there is a difference between a blunt force durability or energy projection durability and cutting durability, i think someone like achilles can cut an asgardian, achilles with a swing cut thru a golden statue.
and even if achilles see he is having trouble cutting the average asgardian he will just cut their eyes, tendons, ears, throats... this is achilles we are talking about the greatest warrior earth has ever known in mythology.
if you want to involve comics into this then it wouldnt make sense already it will be too much of a mixture.
Originally posted by red sabre
because this is not about strength, its about can achilles cut him or not, and even thor himself has sometimes issues with being got, there is a difference between a blunt force durability or energy projection durability and cutting durability, i think someone like achilles can cut an asgardian, achilles with a swing cut thru a golden statue.
and even if achilles see he is having trouble cutting the average asgardian he will just cut their eyes, tendons, ears, throats... this is achilles we are talking about the greatest warrior earth has ever known in mythology.
if you want to involve comics into this then it wouldnt make sense already it will be too much of a mixture.
Movie Thor was only cut once and that was by Loki's dagger, the same daggers that were one-shot killing Frost Giants in the first movie.
Originally posted by red sabre
because this is not about strength, its about can achilles cut him or not, and even thor himself has sometimes issues with being got, there is a difference between a blunt force durability or energy projection durability and cutting durability, i think someone like achilles can cut an asgardian, achilles with a swing cut thru a golden statue.
and even if achilles see he is having trouble cutting the average asgardian he will just cut their eyes, tendons, ears, throats... this is achilles we are talking about the greatest warrior earth has ever known in mythology.
if you want to involve comics into this then it wouldnt make sense already it will be too much of a mixture.
I forgot about that cut through Apollos golden statue. Thats some serious strength and he could throw a spear as far and as accurate as he deemed nesasary.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Demigod means half god, Hercules was considered a demigod because his mother was mortal.The Asgardians are considered full gods.
ok first of all lest make order in this, are we discussing comics asgardians or mythological asgardians or movie asgardians? movie asgardians have no feats, mythological asgardians dont have feats aside of the gods themselves as odin loki baldar atc atc.
if we are discussing comics asgardians then they are not gods, however if we go by comics standards then anyone above human can be considered a god, comics is downplaying gods very much, however as far as comics asgardians never presented anything to put them any where near thor or a freakin god, maybe they are physically superiar to humans but thats about it, i know you are wanking asgard and anything that has anything to do with thor and odin but dont make things up, asgardians are jus tphysically superior to humans in several ways thats it, if we go deeper into the argument i can say asgardians probably present as much above human feats as spartans, in my eyes asgardians are just like the spartans.
Originally posted by red sabre
ok first of all lest make order in this, are we discussing comics asgardians or mythological asgardians or movie asgardians? movie asgardians have no feats, mythological asgardians dont have feats aside of the gods themselves as odin loki baldar atc atc.
if we are discussing comics asgardians then they are not gods, however if we go by comics standards then anyone above human can be considered a god, comics is downplaying gods very much, however as far as comics asgardians never presented anything to put them any where near thor or a freakin god, maybe they are physically superiar to humans but thats about it, i know you are wanking asgard and anything that has anything to do with thor and odin but dont make things up, asgardians are jus tphysically superior to humans in several ways thats it, if we go deeper into the argument i can say asgardians probably present as much above human feats as spartans, in my eyes asgardians are just like the spartans.
Name which Spartans could survive being frozen by the Casket of Ancient Winters and then later shatter the ice block by basically flexing his muscles.