Chaos King Vs The Source

Started by Cogito2 pages
Originally posted by ODG
was matched by the combined might of the New Gods pantheon.

Not quite.

Each dead New God increased Darkseid's power 10x. There were hundreds of thousands of New Gods. It's not merely the sum of New God power, it's exponentially more powerful on an inconceivable level.

Originally posted by Cogito
Not quite.

Each dead New God increased Darkseid's power 10x. There were hundreds of thousands of New Gods. It's not merely the sum of New God power, it's exponentially more powerful on an inconceivable level.

I'm perfectly aware of that.

But that concept of the the sum being greater than the parts isn't anything new.

Originally posted by ODG
But that concept of the the sum being greater than the parts isn't anything new.

I presume he's saying that since it's a geometrical progression rather than just the sequential stacking up of power, therefore it's different from the traditional "sum>parts" trope played out in fiction.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I presume he's saying that since it's a geometrical progression rather than just the sequential stacking up of power, therefore it's different from the traditional "sum>parts" trope played out in fiction.
My use of the term, "greater than the sum of the parts," wasn't incidental. But from the comic itself. And typically, the "greater than the sum of the parts" trope in fiction is geometric. DBZ fusion, Uni-Mind, etc.

Originally posted by ODG
My use of the term, "greater than the sum of the parts," wasn't incidental. But from the comic itself. And typically, the "greater than the sum of the parts" trope in fiction is geometric. DBZ fusion, Uni-Mind, etc.

Do such types of combinations apply to the pantheons of universe-616?

Because it was specified in the case of the New Gods in that issue. I don't know about Uni-Mind, but for DBZ, Toriyama mentioned in an interview somewhere that it wasn't just simple addition of power, but more like their power-levels getting multiplied with each other, so we have confirmation for that as well.

^ It may or may not apply, but think about this: the combined pantheons that Chaos King absorbed (that weren't released and fighting as minions) was enough to beat Supergod Herc silly. And Supergod Herc while decimated was still powerful enough to completely restore over 98% of the 616 universe (if you ignore the term multiverse throughout).

So imagine how powerful Supergod Herc was at his peak and not near-death.

Then remember Chaos King was still handily way above that.

The Chaos King was also an Abstract entity portrayed as the equal of Eternity in that arc, so it's not clear how much of that juice was his own personal power and the pantheons' absorbed power. Or was it stated that everything he did was due to the gods power he absorbed?

^ Chaos King was Mikaboshi. A Japanese god who was an aspect of Oblivion. He eventually elevated himself to his Chaos King, Eternity-threatening levels by absorbing other gods. To my knowledge, there was never a scene of him doing anything but absorbing other gods for their power.

He certainly never received a plot device amp by awakening some long dormant power source or anything like that.

From what I recall, Eternity was summoned to help them against Mikaboshi before he absorbed all the gods. I'll re-read to be sure though.

im not understanding something, it was stated on panel that chaos king was the darkness/void before creation, yet he was also a japanese god? what am i missing here?

Originally posted by operator616
im not understanding something, it was stated on panel that chaos king was the darkness/void before creation, yet he was also a japanese god? what am i missing here?
the japanese god "mikaboshi" is the void before creation in there mythology.

They found mikaboshi and imprisoned him, he isnt really a "japanese god"