The Kelly Anne Bates Murder

Originally posted by Dolos
What he's getting is probably worse, the Warden has probably been made aware of what's happened and told to 'do his job'. They probably don't expect this man to make it to age 69, with what he'll be exposed to behind bars when the Warden enlightens his cell mates.

Originally posted by Oliver North
Its not about whether I think the person deserves to live or anything like that, I just don't believe anyone has the right to take another's life, especially in the case of the government, where it is literally a case of it-is-only-legal-because-we-say-it-is.

Also, interestingly enough, this fellow was also a highly religious person.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Also, interestingly enough, this fellow was also a highly religious person.

Paraphrasing St. Peter, "Women should know their place, etc." Plus the fact that women are second class citizens in the bible, except for Ruth and Esther, who gambled their honor away to help the tribe of Israel...

Depending on what he actually believes, Kathy might have been better off if he was not so religious.

Actually, that fact reminds me of the plot of "The Girl With the Dragon tattoo." Ick.

[Dr Gillian Metzey, a consultant psychiatrist, said Smith lived in a "distorted
reality".]

Now that's putting it lightly, Damn!

Probably explains why he turned himself into he police without trying to run/hide.

Wiki: Murder of Kelly Anne Bates

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Paraphrasing St. Peter, "Women should know their place, etc." Plus the fact that women are second class citizens in the bible, except for Ruth and Esther, who gambled their honor away to help the tribe of Israel...

Depending on what he actually believes, Kathy might have been better off if he was not so religious.

Actually, that fact reminds me of the plot of "The Girl With the Dragon tattoo." Ick.

There are somemany other indicators as well which suggest that he was a violent misogynist.

Originally posted by Major_Lexington
Now that's putting it lightly, Damn!

Probably explains why he turned himself into he police without trying to run/hide.

Wiki: Murder of Kelly Anne Bates

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's no evidence she developed empathy for him or mistook relent for acts of benevolence. All we know is that she didn't leave.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
One of Smith's quotes:
"I understand now why some men want to kill their women."

Underline mine.

It's mentioned that he was a Jehovah's Witness.

Assuming that his beliefs were at all based upon conventional JW doctorine, it's hard for me to believe that his actions were at all religiously motivated.

JW culture and ideology is pretty chauvinistic, but its also anti-violent to the point of submissiveness. Witnesses don't even believe in people going to hell or the sort.

Obviously, the man was psychotic, but my point is that unless he was basically flat-out ignoring JW doctorine in favor of obsessing over whatever anti-women scriptures he could find, I'm not sure how much his religious beliefs tied into this.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
It's mentioned that he was a Jehovah's Witness.

I'm not sure how much his religious beliefs tied into this

😂

stfu

Some call it bias, I call it perspective uhuh

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
It's mentioned that he was a Jehovah's Witness.

Assuming that his beliefs were at all based upon conventional JW doctorine, it's hard for me to believe that his actions were at all religiously motivated.

JW culture and ideology is pretty chauvinistic, but its also anti-violent to the point of submissiveness. Witnesses don't even believe in people going to hell or the sort.

Obviously, the man was psychotic, but my point is that unless he was basically flat-out ignoring JW doctorine in favor of obsessing over whatever anti-women scriptures he could find, I'm not sure how much his religious beliefs tied into this.

Anyway, they should make him fight a bear with a wooden sword.

fight me irl m8 ill crush u

ill hook u n the gabber m8

i swear on me mum's life ill reck u

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Well, the OP(me) asks about whether you think that the level of punishment he got was severe enough. But I get where you're coming from.

well, in the same vein, I don't see criminal justice about dealing out value based sentences to people in order to satisfy how much we think people should be hurt. I think there is little likelihood of rehabilitation, and thus, to protect society in general, it is justifiable to take away this individual's rights. idk, beyond that, I feel it is too much power in the hands of the state.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Also, interestingly enough, this fellow was also a highly religious person.

I'm not sure how relevant that is... baring some breakthrough in the understanding of the neurological origins of violence, that seems far too post hoc of an explanation to me.

Do you agree that he should fight a bear?

He can fight the bears getting high on jet fuel in Russia.

Originally posted by Mindset
gabber

YouTube video

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you agree that he should fight a bear?

yes, if only for our entertainment, which is more important than justice, yes

Exactly.

That's what society doesn't get anymore.

These are sad times we live in.

it's a new dark age

I want more public executions in soccer fields