Gandalf the White (movie) vs. Ganondorf (TP)

Started by Darkstorm Zero30 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
You picked and chose what counted while ignoring the rest. 😆

Heh, no, you just could not follow a chain of thought, never mind a chain of events.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, destroying his staff is fighting directly just as resisting a fireball is you clown. 😆

And yet I didn't say Gandalf was not strengthened while Saruman was weakened, but his "Crushing Defeat" came at the hands of Grima Wormtongue and a dagger in the back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Witch King did overpower Gandalf. I agree.

And the Witch king gets done in by a regular woman with a Sword and a Hobbit.

So, we have 2 cases of a Maiar (Saruman) and the leader of the Ringwraiths (Witch King) getting done in by ordinary weapons. (Oh, and do not forget, Merry's weapon is not innately magical in the Movies.)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh relax. You're just annoying whenever you decide to come around. You usually end up crying and disappear for months.

I never disappear Quan, I'm here, even when I don't always post. I do have this important thing called a life to go to, which involves things like work and family. I can't always be here to deal with your hypocritical trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not hypocritical at all, Sherrie.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Doesn't matter if that were true since this thread only acknowledges Tp. That's the point of saying Tp only. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
His powers, the Balrogs power being beyond a hundred or so enemies, Aragorn, Legolas, etc.

Which is entirely undemonstrated beyond vague extrapolation of Gandalf's words and the fate of the Moria Dwarves. it's not like the creature didn't have several hundred thousand Goblins backing it up at all.....

Originally posted by quanchi112
Size, weight, behind Aragorn himself who defeated the Nazgul single handedly.

Soooo, essentially we are reducd to A>B>C logic, again...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
More post.
Nother cession.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Heh, no, you just could not follow a chain of thought, never mind a chain of events.

And yet I didn't say Gandalf was not strengthened while Saruman was weakened, but his "Crushing Defeat" came at the hands of Grima Wormtongue and a dagger in the back.

And the Witch king gets done in by a regular woman with a Sword and a Hobbit.

So, we have 2 cases of a Maiar (Saruman) and the leader of the Ringwraiths (Witch King) getting done in by ordinary weapons. (Oh, and do not forget, Merry's weapon is not innately magical in the Movies.)

I never disappear Quan, I'm here, even when I don't always post. I do have this important thing called a life to go to, which involves things like work and family. I can't always be here to deal with your hypocritical trolling.

Which is entirely undemonstrated beyond vague extrapolation of Gandalf's words and the fate of the Moria Dwarves. it's not like the creature didn't have several hundred thousand Goblins backing it up at all.....

Soooo, essentially we are reducd to A>B>C logic, again...

No, you were biased and were upset Shao Kahn maims Akuma.

Destroying his staff defeated him just like Saruman taking possession of the Greys staff defeated him. Grima killed him after Gandalf the white defeated him.

Yes, a magical blade while a hobbit interferes. It wasn't a fair fight but it was a magical blade all the same.

I don't think the Lotr wizards have their magical protections without their staffs. Nazgul also had a specific weakness to fire.

Oh so you're just lurking too afraid to post. I bet I don't spend that much more time on here than you. When I'm here I like to be as active as possible. I have a few posters keeping me very active just how I like it.

No, it isn't. None of the other characters were able to hurt the Balrog. That was outright stated and we see the damage he took lasted for hours maybe even days. Regular swords and what not weren't going to injure it. Magic was required.

Well, Aragorn can defeat the Nazgul with a sword and a torch but is no threat with a group to the Balrog.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.
Things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you were biased and were upset Shao Kahn maims Akuma.

A claim you could not possibly prove, considering the only schtick you had was soul manip, and Akuma has soul destruction. Kahn has not the feats to compare, and was punched through the chest by Kang.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Destroying his staff defeated him just like Saruman taking possession of the Greys staff defeated him. Grima killed him after Gandalf the white defeated him.

Yeah, that puts the WK beyond 2 Maiar according to your logic, and Saruman was decidedly weakened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, a magical blade while a hobbit interferes. It wasn't a fair fight but it was a magical blade all the same.

Prove that Eowyn's or Merry's weapons were magical, from the movies, right now. That's a positive claim you just made, and you require evidence to back it up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think the Lotr wizards have their magical protections without their staffs. Nazgul also had a specific weakness to fire.

Which is nothing to do with what I said at all...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh so you're just lurking too afraid to post. I bet I don't spend that much more time on here than you. When I'm here I like to be as active as possible. I have a few posters keeping me very active just how I like it.

The wanking is strong with this one... So strong he kills his own brain cells due to blood-flow loss.

You would lose that bet pretty damn fast Quan, because I work, while you have time to go post for post in a large number of threads with SP. If I was afraid to post, then WTF am I doing now? 😕

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. None of the other characters were able to hurt the Balrog. That was outright stated and we see the damage he took lasted for hours maybe even days. Regular swords and what not weren't going to injure it. Magic was required.

Big f*cking deal? it takes some supremely potent magics in conjunction with a haxxed magical sword to down Ganon, and even then it's never permanent.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, Aragorn can defeat the Nazgul with a sword and a torch but is no threat with a group to the Balrog.

Irrelevant, The WK downed the White, a more powerful version of the being who downed the Balrog, this is using your own logic BTW.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
A claim you could not possibly prove, considering the only schtick you had was soul manip, and Akuma has soul destruction. Kahn has not the feats to compare, and was punched through the chest by Kang.

Yeah, that puts the WK beyond 2 Maiar according to your logic, and Saruman was decidedly weakened.

Prove that Eowyn's or Merry's weapons were magical, from the movies, right now. That's a positive claim you just made, and you require evidence to back it up.

Which is nothing to do with what I said at all...

The wanking is strong with this one... So strong he kills his own brain cells due to blood-flow loss.

You would lose that bet pretty damn fast Quan, because I work, while you have time to go post for post in a large number of threads with SP. If I was afraid to post, then WTF am I doing now? 😕

Big f*cking deal? it takes some supremely potent magics in conjunction with a haxxed magical sword to down Ganon, and even then it's never permanent.

Irrelevant, The WK downed the White, a more powerful version of the being who downed the Balrog, this is using your own logic BTW.

Kahn takes his soul. Akuma can't prevent it and so what. Kang would crush Akuma as well.

Wk was more powerful than Gandalf and destroyed his staff. That manner of attack is only made possible against fellow wizards and magic users which was only made possible by the flying monster which wasn't present in the fight against Aragorn making it an apples to oranges comparison. Context, sport.
😂

It glows ie. magic. Normal blades don't glow. Point proven. 😂

Yes, it was. I bet you're going to go into lurk mode.

I work as well. You are feeling froggy but it won't last long. 😂

So what. He always loses and was killed sans Legend of Zelda part 1. Doesn't take potent magics and he's been easily defeated by the mirror of twilight and the ms.

Due to being on a monster with flight whereas he didn't have this monster against Aragorn making the circumstances different despite you acting like they were the same.

Context. Balrog would dominate Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Things.
Concessions.

Originally posted by Emi~Kiro
Maybe he doesn't know enough about the differences between movie and book Gandalf and just went with what he knew? Better to use a version you know about than one you don't.

Ganondorf wins btw.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cant fight your own battles.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Didnt Grey die from falling? Anyhow, be interesting to see what Gandalf will do here, mainly because I've seen people say he's far more powerful than I saw in the movie.

Though from the top tiers in the movie I don't see anything overpowering Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Gandalf wins.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, Gandalf wins.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Why'd you have to go and make a movie-only thread? Book Gandalf would make for a better opponent for Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Movie Gandalf wins.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Why'd you have to go and make a movie-only thread? Book Gandalf would make for a better opponent for Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You won't even argue against me here.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If you had anything approaching even chimpanzee intelligence, you could figure out who he thought won.

Ganondorf wins.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Didnt Grey die from falling? Anyhow, be interesting to see what Gandalf will do here, mainly because I've seen people say he's far more powerful than I saw in the movie.

Though from the top tiers in the movie I don't see anything overpowering Ganondorf.