True but they both were demi gods. He has insane feats but who has he gone up against without god weapons at Achilles level? I can't think of one person.
The movies were different and a lot of the stuff he did he had major help with.
Look back on all of Perseus feats, he was aided big time in all of them.
He has uber durability but can he not be cut by a sword in a forum fight? Seems unfair to think so.
Was Achilles ever stated to be a true demi-god or have his powers in the film? I thought they made it so he was just so badass people believed him to be one. And the one time he got hit was in his heel. And normal weapons would have broken against most of the super people he fought, so bringing up the Godly Weapons makes no sense.
And yes he got help, against fricking monsters and Gods and everything so far beyond what Achilles could handle.
Just from his fight with that King who got struck by lightning and turned into a monster shows he's pretty much faster than Achilles and damned skilled to boot.
Originally posted by KingD19
Was Achilles ever stated to be a true demi-god or have his powers in the film? I thought they made it so he was just so badass people believed him to be one. And the one time he got hit was in his heel. And normal weapons would have broken against most of the super people he fought, so bringing up the Godly Weapons makes no sense.And yes he got help, against fricking monsters and Gods and everything so far beyond what Achilles could handle.
Just from his fight with that King who got struck by lightning and turned into a monster shows he's pretty much faster than Achilles and damned skilled to boot.
It was stated he was the son of an immortal goddess. Which makes him a demi-god. There is nothing to suggest achilles had any other weakness besides women and his heel.
Was this proven true though? He talks to his actual mother Thetis before going to war. It's easy to say, but we never see anything so we never know. We see Zeus, Poseidon, Ares, Hades, etc... through the movies so we know Perseus is actually a demi-god. Achilles is just better than normal people.
And the whole legend of Achilles seemed to spawn from the men finding him dying of a single arrow wound to the heel because he removed all the other arrows.
Originally posted by KingD19
Was this proven true though? He talks to his actual mother Thetis before going to war. It's easy to say, but we never see anything so we never know. We see Zeus, Poseidon, Ares, Hades, etc... through the movies so we know Perseus is actually a demi-god. Achilles is just better than normal people.And the whole legend of Achilles seemed to spawn from the men finding him dying of a single arrow wound to the heel because he removed all the other arrows.
It was actually stated that his mother was an immortal goddess, Achilles stated himself that he saw the gods. He had a legend of being the earth greatest warrior.
He said so, but as Rob said. Everything mythical was left pretty vague. His mom was just right there talking to him. Aside from a prophecy, we don't see much godliness from her. And Achilles can say whatever he wants. Did we see him see the Gods? Nothing was ever proven is what I'm saying.
And his legend of being the greatest warrior was probably true, but that just made him a badass, not a demi-god. Even toward the end the legend of his heel was shown to have started because up till then he never got touched, and when they finally found him he only had the one arrow in his heel(because he'd yanked all the other ones out)
Originally posted by KingD19
He said so, but as Rob said. Everything mythical was left pretty vague. His mom was just right there talking to him. Aside from a prophecy, we don't see much godliness from her. And Achilles can say whatever he wants. Did we see him see the Gods? Nothing was ever proven is what I'm saying.And his legend of being the greatest warrior was probably true, but that just made him a badass, not a demi-god. Even toward the end the legend of his heel was shown to have started because up till then he never got touched, and when they finally found him he only had the one arrow in his heel(because he'd yanked all the other ones out)
He didn't state about his mother, someone else stated about his mother Thetis being an immortal goddess. Lets not play ignorant here now.
Me either. He was never actually stated to be one as far as I remember. But your second statement is also true. Persues fights monsters, more monster, men turned into monsters, actual gods, and has feats of superhuman strength and durability through both movies. Didn't he hold up that massive wall/block in the maze?
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't recall Achilles' demi-god status being mentioned, but it's irrelevant. Perseus beats Achilles' ass due to better feats and fighting ridiculously more powerful opponents, not "Perseus is a half god" alone.
It wasn't directly stated, but we all know what being the son of a god or goddess means here. I pretty sure the writers were hoping people would not be ignorant regardless if they had not read the Illiad.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It wasn't directly stated, but we all know what being the son of a god or goddess means here. I pretty sure the writers were hoping people would not be ignorant regardless if they had not read the Illiad.
Troy took the mythical aspects out and gave us more of a grounded in reality story. In the Iliad, Zeus and Hermes make appearances to the protagonist, but in this film that was completely left out.
Originally posted by Robtard
Troy took the mythical aspects out and gave us more of a grounded in reality story. In the Iliad, Zeus and Hermes make appearances to the protagonist, but in this film that was completely left out.
At least you read it, I'm impressed, RJ and Quan should read it to each other night every night before bed.
Originally posted by relentless1
Achilles. Wayy better fighter, decent fight in the first round but Achilles stomps in the second. Achilles' fighting skills alone are so crisp that they would negate any advantage that godly weapons might afford Perseus
Agreed
Originally posted by KingD19
The weapons don't provide any advantage aside from being more durable iirc.And Achilles would have died fighting the opponents Perseus faced.
Not entirely correct, Achilles in focus could not be touched. He had like a combat sense that rivaled anyone. Achilles could have performed the same feats with his powerset.
Originally posted by KingD19
Achilles only fought humans though. We can't assume he'd perform the exact same against superhuman opponents and monsters. And he could have have performed the same feats as several of Persesus' feats were due to his superhuman strength and durability.
What superhuman strength feats does he have?
Originally posted by KingD19Well said.
A feat Perseus as a demi-god with higher physical stats could pull off. He was flipping off walls in fights and falling right back into combat. And he does stuff like that all through both movies.And comparing both fighters, Achilles' speed/agility isn't that much better if at all. Perseus after all has done more ridiculous sh*t than Achilles since pretty much the only things he fights are supernatural beings far above the normal humans Achilles fought.