They wouldn't oneshot many versions of the turtles. I don't know what they're doing in comics now. But aside from the original 80's toon, most versions would give the Snake's great fights. Especially the 03 version who were blatantly superhuman, the 12' version(current toon), and the versions in between.
Originally posted by Zack FairSince the version is stated I'd assume this is the current comic version, that are confirmed low level superhumans and can casually deflect bullets and lasers with their weapons like Solidus did, except they don't need to rely on an exo skeleton.
I'll be frank. I was thinking the Snakes just oneshot the turtles.Its still funny how they just get knives. Just have them fist fight the turtles.
Originally posted by FinalAnswergameplay mechanic, in that same game Big Boss was unable to break chains and was taken down by 4 soldiers, captured and tortured by Strangelove. Try again trollHere's a picture of Cocoon trying, and failing, to crush Big Boss.
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Originally posted by KingD19Outside of the live film versions and possible the 80's cartoons, with any other versions any single Turtle would solo in under a minute. Solidus would be the only one who would survive one on one longer.
They wouldn't oneshot many versions of the turtles. I don't know what they're doing in comics now. But aside from the original 80's toon, most versions would give the Snake's great fights. Especially the 03 version who were blatantly superhuman, the 12' version(current toon), and the versions in between.
Originally posted by BasedSnake couldn't even solo 3 Genome soldiers. On top of that no one in MGS even tried to kill Snake because they needed him alive to activate the pal codes.
I mean I watched the cartoons as a kid but I don't recall the Turtles feats. Honestly Solid can solo.
Snake, Big Boss and most MGS characters are quivering pussies when their feats are put into context. The sad thing is that the moderately superhuman characters like Solidus and Gene end up losing to these quivering pussies.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
What's say we make it a bit more interesting and give each snake a revolver and the turtles get casey jones.
Originally posted by VoidLord
Right, except that none of the Snakes except for Solidus are bullet timers and don't have a single bullet timing feat. You're right, the turtles don't have feats dodging a rail gun shot, which is 1/4 the speed of a hand gun bullet. I'm not sure who Raigen is...if you can't even spell then name right then you shouldn't even be posting here.And at what point did any of the Snakes take down opponents more powerful than they are without weaponry or circumstances? Oh yeah...Never...and it's the opposite with Solidus, he was taken down by Raiden who's LESS Powerful than he is
strength is the same, agreed, because the turtles that are low level super human are def the same as guys who can't break hand cuffs or prison bars and get steamrolled by fat black guys and guys who can't break concrete..makes total sense /rolls eyes
Solidus is probably the weakest person here since he doesn't have any feats without his exo skeletonseriously I know it must be hard for you to function without a 3rd grade education but it's pretty obvious that you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. Go away please
A sock? Yay :T Yeah cept they're not? And yep, a simple typo means everything.
All the time.
Meaning what for feats?
No feats posted for the Turtles side, nice job~ If you think the Turtles win then tell me how. I've already admitted imo that its about even, so if you have Turtle feats post them. Would prefer them to win anyhow.
Big Boss and Solid Snake can probably punch the knives through their shells.
Actually I don't know shit about Turtles besides the old cartoon and the movies. Like BloodRain said, post some feats guys. Or at least mention them. don't just generalize "lol they iz superhuman and snakes r weak and everything they've done is null and BS"
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Big Boss and Solid Snake can probably punch the knives through their shells.Actually I don't know shit about Turtles besides the old cartoon and the movies. Like BloodRain said, post some feats guys. Or at least mention them. don't just generalize "lol they iz superhuman and snakes r weak and everything they've done is null and BS"
ummm they beat the Shredder 😎
Originally posted by BloodRainAn idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Yay ^_^
Guns are a game-changing advantage. A strong human with clubs is not.A sock? Yay :T Yeah cept they're not? And yep, a simple typo means everything.
All the time.
Meaning what for feats?
No feats posted for the Turtles side, nice job~ If you think the Turtles win then tell me how. I've already admitted imo that its about even, so if you have Turtle feats post them. Would prefer them to win anyhow.
Where are those bullet timing feats you're talking about. You said that all of the Snakes are bullet timers but you can't find a single bullet timing feat for 3 of them meaning you're full of shit.
I don't need feats for the Turtles, their writer Mateus already stated they are low end super human, they're able to casually deflect lasers with their weapons. How about the Snakes? Getting taken down by 3-4 soldiers isn't a feat, neither is getting cornholed by an overweight cripple
I know that you've never played any of the games, so you aren't qualified to speak here. Go away idiot
Originally posted by VoidLord
I don't need feats for the Turtles, their writer Mateus already stated they are low end super human, they're able to casually deflect lasers with their weapons.
No one argued they weren't, so that was pointless. And fictional lasers highly vary in speed, so unless youre claiming FTL Turtles come back with a solid speed feat.
Though "I don't need feats for the Turtles" somewhat proves you're just here for your anti-Snake mission.
Originally posted by KingD19people think this, i thought he did until you look at it in context. we dont hear the sound of bullets flailing off of his knife, we don't see any sparks of impact and Vamp spun toward the Navy Seal, at times his knife facing the opposite direction and it would of been impossible for him to have deflected bullets because his back would of been facing the Seal while his knife is being held in front. If anything he dodged them since he can tell where the gun is pointing before its fired.
I thought Vamp blocked bullets with his knife in MGS2?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
lol. He even dances around them mocking the opposition.Funny though because he doesn't even need to dodge them.
lol he dances around them mocking the opposition. That is until Raiden grazed him in the face because Vamp's gimmicky ability to read muscles was partially nullified by his suit. Last I checked bullet timers don't get grazed in the face
Originally posted by BloodRain
^The only thing posted that was close to a feat or argument.No one argued they weren't, so that was pointless. And fictional lasers highly vary in speed, so unless youre claiming FTL Turtles come back with a solid speed feat.
Though "I don't need feats for the Turtles" somewhat proves you're just here for your anti-Snake mission.
What do you mean no one argued they weren't? I'm arguing it right now, you said they were when they really aren't because only one of them have actual bullet timing feats and that's because he uses an exo skeleton. End of story.
I never argued that they were FTL, But they're still better than anything the Snakes have to offer since it only takes 3-4 soldiers to take them down in a direct fight.
Originally posted by VoidLord
What do you mean no one argued they weren't? I'm arguing it right now, you said they were when they really aren't because only one of them have actual bullet timing feats and that's because he uses an exo skeleton. End of story.I never argued that they were FTL, But they're still better than anything the Snakes have to offer since it only takes 3-4 soldiers to take them down in a direct fight.
Then its fictional laser speed, which could be sub-bullet speed for all we know (sub-sonic lasers have come up a lot). So more on that would help.
Also (Chozone?) just remembered we we're discussing that railgun and its megajoules. What's your counter to the joules on a railgun being based on its speed (Forgot about that thread)? And if Solidus in the suit is supersonic, doesnt this means his own reactions are up there? Or is it stated the skeleton amps his reactions? And what about Raiden defeating Solidus in his suit?
