Insane Genis Vell vs Odin · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.
Genis one-shot killed Drang.
As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis.

What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo?

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo?

Holding back.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

👆

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

mindset is owning. as usual. when you fools gonna realize, you call out the devil, he brings hell with him.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.
Genis one-shot killed Drang.
As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis.

However considering that the actual battle never happened between KT and the giants we don't know and this noob version of King Thor easily ripped through Genis sheilds

Mr Master Junior Member

^^ Actually it was definitely going to happen,
and KT admitted the Odin power made him realize it was true.

That aside, that was KT's initial attack against Genis,
then Genis blasted KT back and that was it.

Again though,
Genis just wanted to be acknowledged as a 'true God' by the Asgardians
only because of a priest on Earth was complaining to Genis
about Asgardians blaspheming wanting worship.

Genis was toying around, he never intended to hurt KT,
just kick some ass in Asgard.

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Anyway, easiest way to win for Genis is to kill Odin as a baby.
Which Genis can perform during battle without ever leaving the field
as proven on panel before.

That ... or outright obliteration. Or ... re-create Odin as whatever.
... heck, Genis already did when he re-created Everything withIN the universe. 😛

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by leonidas
mindset is owning. as usual. when you fools gonna realize, you call out the devil, he brings hell with him.

Have I ever told you how smart you are?

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo?

During the Phyla encounter Genis' CA was becoming a hinderance instead of an asset.
He didn't know what was real and not, including Phyla.
He was confused and out of focus and Phyla was given a 'plot device' against Genis,
she can absorb his energy emissions, an ability Genis gave her
when he re-created all reality.

But, just prior to that 4 issue arc within the run,
Genis was folding the Past-Present & Future "All Over"
via time-rips with total control for "fun"
just to see how everyone would react to their different counter-parts,
including himself.

"Not just here on the Moon. All over, people's Past & Present & Futures are colliding,
thanks to me."

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Genis then fixed it all with a single shot from his gun.

[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15850502_Gen16.jpg]

[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15850503_Gen17.jpg]

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Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back.
And Photon did win in the end.

Zemo was plot induced.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back.
And Photon did win in the end.

They were both holding back

Zemo was plot induced.

How so?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
During the Phyla encounter Genis' CA was becoming a hinderance instead of an asset.
He didn't know what was real and not, including Phyla.
He was confused and out of focus and Phyla was given a 'plot device' against Genis,
she can absorb his energy emissions, an ability Genis gave her
when he re-created all reality.

As far as I can tell, Phyla didn't absorb any of Genis' blasts... And Genis' demeanor was such that he was bloodlusted and wanted to kill Phyla(4th scan.)

Phyla also forcibly pulled Genis through one of his own temporal rifts:
[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15853910_10.jpg]
[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15853911_11.jpg]

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back. And Photon did win in the end.

They were both holding back:
[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15854053_12.jpg]

Shortly thereafter, Sentry literally said: "That's it... No more holding back.":
[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15854055_13.jpg]

Photon only 'won' that battle by BFR'ing Sentry to the Microverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Zemo was plot induced.

If by 'plot-induced', you mean that Zemo had acquired the Moonstones, and used them to effortlessly perma-defeat Genis via temporal manipulation, then you are correct. 😉

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as I can tell, Phyla didn't absorb any of Genis' blasts... And Genis' demeanor was such that he was bloodlusted and wanted to kill Phyla(4th scan.)

He never wanted to really kill her, or hurt her. This was revealed later.

But that aside, Phyla was able to absorb Genis' blasts in 616:

(scan is of them in that other Universe where Genis is powerless)

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856145_Gen18.jpg]

Originally posted by Galan007
That being said, Phyla did extremely well against him:
Phyla also forcibly pulled Genis through one of his own temporal rifts:

Whatever happened between Phyla and Genis was subconsciously manipulated by Genis.

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856148_Gen19.jpg]

As you can see,
the rift coincidentally led to a realm where Genis became powerless,
a place where Genis can finally end his games,
and give the mantle of "Captain Marvel" pride.

I wouldn't be surprised if Genis created this universe with that specific intent.

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This arc is the end of Genis' insanity. (he was actually never truly insane we learn)
He manipulated circumstances to first, stay in check via Rick, (brain fry ability)
and second, to end the seeming insanity and become a hero again,
in this realm where he can be handled by the Titans, and forced to face the truth:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856151_Gen20.jpg]

Then, immediately back in 616, he's no longer "insane" (actually he matures)

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856621_Gen22.jpg]

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Anyway,
Genis literally re-created Everything withIN Reality, (re-arranging Timelines and all)
including himself,
and it wasn't a perfect job:

(these scans also verify that Genis actually re-introduced UniverseS to the Multiverse,
like a Timeline that had never happened)

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856781_Gen11-1.jpg]

(reconfiguring Timelines)

This is what made him go bananas at the end of the Entropy affair
when he tried to physically change history and it back fired on em then his CA took em over the hill.

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But regardless, even Phyla knew who made her and the Universe around her:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856763_Gen6.jpg]

That would be Genis!

Originally posted by Galan007
They were both holding back:
Shortly thereafter, Sentry literally said: "That's it... No more holding back.":
Photon only 'won' that battle by BFR'ing Sentry to the Microverse.

Then I guess, it doesn't matter, and this occurrence is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Galan007
If by 'plot-induced', you mean that Zemo had acquired the Moonstones, and used
them to effortlessly perma-defeat Genis via temporal manipulation, then you are
correct.

heh ... I'll return to this one.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
He never wanted to really kill her, or hurt her. This was revealed later.
But that aside, Phyla was able to absorb Genis' blasts in 616:
(scan is of them in that other Universe where Genis is powerless)
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856145_Gen18.jpg]
Whatever happened between Phyla and Genis was subconsciously manipulated by Genis.
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856148_Gen19.jpg]
As you can see,
the rift coincidentally led to a realm where Genis became powerless,
a place where Genis can finally end his games,
and give the mantle of "Captain Marvel" pride.
I wouldn't be surprised if Genis created this universe with that specific intent.

Where was it stated in those scans that Genis didn't want to harm Phyla during their scuffle?

Because in the scans I posted, he plainly stated that he wanted to kill her:

Originally posted by Mr Master
This arc is the end of Genis' insanity. (he was actually never truly insane we learn)
He manipulated circumstances to first, stay in check via Rick, (brain fry ability)
and second, to end the seeming insanity and become a hero again,
in this realm where he can be handled by the Titans, and forced to face the truth:
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856151_Gen20.jpg]
Then, immediately back in 616, he's no longer "insane" (actually he matures)
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856621_Gen22.jpg]
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Anyway,
Genis literally re-created Everything withIN Reality, (re-arranging Timelines and all)
including himself,
and it wasn't a perfect job:
(these scans also verify that Genis actually re-introduced UniverseS to the Multiverse,
like a Timeline that had never happened)
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856781_Gen11-1.jpg]
(reconfiguring Timelines)
This is what made him go bananas at the end of the Entropy affair
when he tried to physically change history and it back fired on em then his CA took em over the hill.
-----------------------------------------------------
But regardless, even Phyla knew who made her and the Universe around her:
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856763_Gen6.jpg]
That would be Genis!

Cool. He was still slapped around by Phyla, stalemated by Sentry, and beaten by Zemo. Glad we're on the same page. 👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
heh ... I'll return to this one.

Zemo was 'plot-induced' as all things are in comics. However, the fact still remains that he perma-beat Photon via temporal manipulation. For all this universal/multiversal BS that gets brought up on Genis' behalf, he was ultimately undone(literally) by a trans-level being... Like it or not.

Mindset Senior Member

Pis.

Reported.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Galan007 undone(literally) by a trans-level being... Like it or not. [/B]

👆 I really don't know how he ended up in High-Herald to be honest the dude has no bad feats.

tkitna Senior Member

I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.

👆

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Anyways Odin wins, not really a fight. We already saw King Thor easily penetrate his shields which are his primary source for defense and without them while tough, Odin can easily take him out. Atlas beat him to death when Zemo had Purple Man block Genis' Cosmic Awareness IIRC. Genis has some nice (Yet weird/vague) feats, but he has no business stepping up to Odin. Wouldn't surprise me if even Thanos could beat him up in a straight fight tbh.

Mindset Senior Member

Thanos would beat Odin.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

So would Wolverine.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a
chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he
wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving
knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt
worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.

👆 ... and What is Sentry ... "not holding back" anyway?

Stalemating WWH?

Or defeating a mentally unstable self imposed limitations Owen
who subconsciously wants to lose?

If Photon has the power Insane Genis had at his peak,
then that's the power to implode infinity & re-arrange infinity.