Star Wars: Rebels!

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But I have a feeling the forms will be different in many aspects now. They've already changed Depa's form. But I'm guessing will learn more in coming novels.

Originally posted by Dionysus
I don't really understand what the Inquisitor means when he says Form 3 focuses on close-quarters combat... isn't a saber duel by default close-quarters combat? Someone help me!

A Form IV(Ataru) practitioner, on the other hand, would have a much more difficult time in a confined setting, because its movements require quite a bit of 'headroom'.

I don't know. I expect the forms will likely have some bigger changes. Like I mentioned earlier, Kanan doesn't use Form 3 but rather he favors it ("to a ridiculous degree"😉. This implies that the Jedi more or less create their own style by melding the forms.That is a pretty drastic change from the EU where most character would just use a single style.

Originally posted by Galan007
Close quarters combat is in reference to the battlefield itself--the rooms/corridors they fought in were fairly narrow and cramped. Form III(Soresu) is a primarily defensive form that is well-suited for this type of venue, because it doesn't involve a bunch of chops, slashes, flips, and kinetic energy build-up. Instead, it pulls all moves closer to the Jedi's body, and focuses on creating a 'defensive cocoon' around him/her via precision blocks and parries.

A Form IV(Ataru) practitioner, on the other hand, would have a much more difficult time in a confined setting, because its movements require quite a bit of 'headroom'.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, that makes sense. Thanks.

Originally posted by Galan007
I doubt the forms themselves will change much. Makashi will still be Makashi, Juyo will still be Juyo, Djem So will still be Djem So, etc. Now, who has utilized the different forms may very well change in this new canon. Like you said: we've already seen this with Depa.

I don't know we'll have to wait and see. I mean if they mentioned the word Soresu, or the fact that Form 3 was a defensive form, then it would be pretty clear there are no changes there.

Add that to the fact that they've already changed Depa to a Form 3 practitioner which let's face it is a pretty radical change, considering she was one of the handful of Vapaad practitioners, so who knows what other radical changes they will make at this point.

Originally posted by ares834
I don't know. I expect the forms will likely have some bigger changes. Like I mentioned earlier, Kanan doesn't use Form 3 but rather he favors it ("to a ridiculous degree"😉. This implies that the Jedi more or less create their own style by melding the forms.That is a pretty drastic change from the EU where most character would just use a single style.

Where are you getting this from?

Back to the story itself, it was pretty sad that Luminara was captured and waited to be executed.

In a way I'm glad they used Luminara as opposed to some random Jedi. It's much more emotional if you see the death of a character you actually knew.

And now after seeing Rise of the Old Masters makes watching Cloak of Darkness and the Geonosian arc really, really disturbing.

Originally posted by ares834
I don't know. I expect the forms will likely have some bigger changes. Like I mentioned earlier, Kanan doesn't use Form 3 but rather he favors it ("to a ridiculous degree"😉. This implies that the Jedi more or less create their own style by melding the forms.That is a pretty drastic change from the EU where most character would just use a single style.

I think Kanan has some sort of working knowledge of multiple forms(which is likely why he naturally favored form III in his close-quarters scuffle with the Inquisitor), but probably hasn't mastered any of them. However, I'd wager that he's hodgepodged a few forms together in an effort to make up for his lack of proficiency in any one form. Just my opinion, though.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I don't know we'll have to wait and see. I mean if they mentioned the word Soresu, or the fact that Form 3 was a defensive form, then it would be pretty clear there are no changes there.

Do you honestly think it's blind luck that Soresu fits those descriptions perfectly?

Originally posted by Galan007

Aside from the fact that Kanan was on the defensive when the Inquisitor stated that he favored form III 'to a ridiculous degree', the Inquisitor also stated that form III's focus was in close-quarters combat.

Do you honestly think it's blind luck that Soresu fits those descriptions perfectly?

Frankly I think just the fact that they mentioned Form 3 is a pretty good sign they're sticking to the old Eu forms. Plus like I said TCW was always faithful to them in the way they portrayed fights (Kenobi being defensive most the time and Dooku being a pure 1 handed fencer).

All I'm saying is I'm waiting for more info on the new canon before I take those old Eu forms as complete and absolute Canon.

As for Kanan fighting defensively, that's certainly not the all and end all, considering he was fighting someone more powerful and skilled than himself, so would have likely been forced on the defensive anyway. If he however continues to fight defensively on a consistent basis... Then there won't be anything left to discuss. (Except perhaps does Vapaad still exist seen as one of its only 3 practitioners had been switched to a Soresu user.)

Originally posted by Galan007
I think Kanan has some sort of working knowledge of multiple forms(which is likely why he naturally favored form III in his close-quarters scuffle with the Inquisitor), but probably hasn't mastered any of them. However, I'd wager that he's hodgepodged a few forms together in an effort to make up for his lack of proficiency in any one form. Just my opinion, though.

I'd say the exact opposite. The Inqis pointing out he favors Form 3 to "a rdivous degree" implies he is using a single form far more than is typical for a Jedi. And I'd assume this is because he didnt complete his training.

His master was fond of Form III - Soresu-, which Obi-Wan is the undisputed Master of. But Kanan was just a Padawan when Order 66 happened, about 13-15 if I recall that interview correctly. So he probably relies heavily on Soresu since that's what his master was teaching him.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Frankly I think just the fact that they mentioned Form 3 is a pretty good sign they're sticking to the old Eu forms. Plus like I said TCW was always faithful to them in the way they portrayed fights (Kenobi being defensive most the time and Dooku being a pure 1 handed fencer).

All I'm saying is I'm waiting for more info on the new canon before I take those old Eu forms as complete and absolute Canon.

Although if TCW guidebooks/encyclopedias/etc. are canon(not sure if they still are, but I see no reason why they wouldn't be), then the forms of combat have always been canon to TCW, as said guidebooks explicitly mention/define them.

Originally posted by ares834
I'd say the exact opposite. The Inqis pointing out he favors Form 3 to "a rdivous degree" implies he is using a single form far more than is typical for a Jedi. And I'd assume this is because he didnt complete his training.

I'm just glad the forms of combat are still canon. 👆

this show NEEDS the Inquisitor in every ep

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
this show NEEDS the Inquisitor in every ep

wouldn't that sort of spoil it? Like how many of us wanted to see Kanan use his saber? i feel like keeping the duels to a minimum will make them all the more worthwhile and exciting when they do bring em out

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
wouldn't that sort of spoil it? Like how many of us wanted to see Kanan use his saber? i feel like keeping the duels to a minimum will make them all the more worthwhile and exciting when they do bring em out

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So their challenge in the interim is to entertain us without the use of Lightsabers.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
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So their challenge in the interim is to entertain us without the use of Lightsabers.

Exactly, thanks for agreeing with me 😄. The way they entertain can be through character development - and Force development on Ezra's part. a friend of mine made a great point "if we had a Kanan Vs Inquisitor duel each episode, it would get boring after a while"

I think that's very true.

Anyway, i can't wait till the next episode, Ezra infiltrating the Empire seems interesting.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
wouldn't that sort of spoil it? Like how many of us wanted to see Kanan use his saber? i feel like keeping the duels to a minimum will make them all the more worthwhile and exciting when they do bring em out

No because the Inquisitor makes this show go.. Kanan sucks as a jedi so hopefully he will improve.

Another good episode. So far this series has proven to be a dramatic improvement over TCW.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
wouldn't that sort of spoil it? Like how many of us wanted to see Kanan use his saber? i feel like keeping the duels to a minimum will make them all the more worthwhile and exciting when they do bring em out

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Yeah, just saw Breaking Ranks. Absolutely amazing. Rebels is getting better and better.

For those of you without Disney XD, where's the best places to watch Rebels?

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Kanan smiling after Hera says a hidden sexual advance might be my favorite moment in Star Wars canon.