Orion/Superman vs Silver Surfer/Hulk vs Terrax/Firelord

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then why ask?

So you agree that when weakened, Thor's lightning isn't at 100%....but left it out when talking about his fight with Nul?

I never said anything about his lightning being weakened or at 100%, I said Thor attack was more than just a physical attack. He was glowing like a Super Saiyan.

Originally posted by carver9
That was a possessed Hulk which means that isn't current Hulk. How am I lowballing when I am stating facts? Thor was damaged after the bfr anyways so someone even attempted to do this would basically take themselves out of the battle. Also, Thor used more than his hammer for that attack anyways unless you missed all of that energy along with a big lightning bolt coming from the sky. Along with Thor entire body being surrounded by energy.

Context provided for one side (Hulk).

No context provided for Thor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Context provided for one side (Hulk).

No context provided for Thor.

Whats the missing context?

Thor was damaged BEFORE he went into the battle. It wasn't a scar, it was a gaping wound. So anyone attempting it wouldn't necessarily 'take themselves out of the battle'.

Originally posted by carver9
Why was he weakened? Because he had a scar? Thor just defeated a major player recently and half of his arm was gone. He was still fighting in peak condidtion. Thor just defeated another major player and his liver was turned to glass. Thor just showed the his best hitting power against a trans level being while having stab holes on his body in multiples of spots. Stabbed completely through and was still fighting at the best we've ever seen him fight at. Same thing happened in fear. Thor have fts in that story that he hasn't displayed in a long time. Thor damage soak is next to none and he showed no weakness in that fight. Maybe you need to catch up on your Thor. Like I've said before, that attack was more than just a physical attack. Anyone with eyes could see that.

@Dark...

It was referenced in the same story with Thanos that the Avengers were fatigued from their battle in space.

Yah - that's the same as having a mystical rainbow wound across your belly.

And it wasn't a scar. Scar implies it was healed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah - that's the same as having a mystical rainbow wound across your belly.

And it wasn't a scar. Scar implies it was healed.

Or having your liver mystically turned to Glass and still fighting or having multiple stab wounds, not small stabs either. Or having your arm burned near the bone while still fighting or being stabbed all the way through again, in the stomach area by a mystical knife. I get your point.

Originally posted by carver9
Or having your liver mystically turned to Glass and still fighting or having multiple stab wounds, not small stabs either. Or having your arm near the bone while still fighting or being stabbed all the way through again, in the stomach area by a mystical knife. I get your point.

Glass shards.

But the glass was still glass.

Did the stab wound linger on for months on end? Or was it a stab wound that was just like any other stab wound?

In other words: the rainbow wound was definitely different from normal wounds, and not just because it was caused by a mystical weapon. If Thor smacks someone in the face with Mjolnir, it isn't a mystical jaw breaking, it's just a jaw break. But if it refuses to heal, doesn't bleed, emits a rainbow energy for months, and actually weakens you to the point you can hardly stand (as Thor was when Galactus came a-calling).....then its different.

At least you concede the point about the scar though 👆 we're making progress.

Originally posted by carver9
Why was he weakened? Because he had a scar? Thor just defeated a major player recently and half of his arm was gone. He was still fighting in peak condidtion. Thor just defeated another major player and his liver was turned to glass. Thor just showed the his best hitting power against a trans level being while having stab holes on his body in multiples of spots. Stabbed completely through and was still fighting at the best we've ever seen him fight at. Same thing happened in fear. Thor have fts in that story that he hasn't displayed in a long time. Thor damage soak is next to none and he showed no weakness in that fight. Maybe you need to catch up on your Thor. Like I've said before, that attack was more than just a physical attack. Anyone with eyes could see that.

@Dark...

It was referenced in the same story with Thanos that the Avengers were fatigued from their battle in space.

If you dont know why he was weakened and that it was more than just a scar u either didn't read the arc or have no clue what your talking about

Originally posted by Sin I AM
If you dont know why he was weakened and that it was more than just a scar u either didn't read the arc or have no clue what your talking about

Reread my post again. In every last one of the scenes I've mentioned, he was injured.

Originally posted by carver9
Reread my post again. In every last one of the scenes I've mentioned, he was injured.

Were they all as lingering and 'strange' as an open wound that emitted rainbow energy?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Were they all as lingering and 'strange' as an open wound that emitted rainbow energy?

Yeah. The stab made Thor drop to his knees. The consistent stabs from Gorr went from one end to the other on multiples of occasions. His liver being turned to glass made Thor scream out in pain. His rainbow wound, he fought Surfer to a standstill while tanking some of his attacks. Killed a skyfather that was stated as being equal to Odin himself and defeated both Nul and Angrir without a limp or scream in pain. Busted a hole completely through Galactus skull. With that said, yeah, it was different.

When he went up against Surfer, he was sweating and so weak, he could hardly stand. Not the best example. Thor is just that hardcore.

And whilst he did all that with the rainbow wound, it was continually open and not healing into a scar, and continuously emitting energy. Whereas with the others, once the fight was over, and the storyline concluded, he healed up - IOW, they were normal wounds.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When he went up against Surfer, he was sweating and so weak, he could hardly stand. Not the best example. Thor is just that hardcore.

And whilst he did all that with the rainbow wound, it was continually open and not healing into a scar, and continuously emitting energy. Whereas with the others, once the fight was over, and the storyline concluded, he healed up - IOW, they were normal wounds.

So having your liver turned to glass and then shattered is normal? Gotcha. Being stabbed in your vital areas and still fighting is normal? Makes sense. Having your arm burned all the way down to the bone is normal? Yep, good points.

Where was he sweating against Surfer. Scans please.

He ripped a hole through an abstract and was still able to gain an advantage on Surfer while doing so and AFTER he got blitzed into Mars at light speed. Don't know what kind of wound that was but he was pulling off fts that a high Herald on Average wouldn't be able to do.

Erm - arm burning occurs in real life. Down to the bone. Nothing inherently mystical about that.

With the liver incident, afterwards, did he still have broken glass for a liver? Simple question.

As for the stabbing,yes, still normal. I can stab someone in their vital areas, there is nothing mystical about it. Whether it was done with Excalibur, the God Blade, or an adamantium sword, the end result is still a normal wound.

It is very different in its severity, which is where you are getting very confused, I think.

And I will post the scan later when I can.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm - arm burning occurs in real life. Down to the bone. Nothing inherently mystical about that.

With the liver incident, afterwards, did he still have broken glass for a liver? Simple question.

As for the stabbing,yes, still normal. I can stab someone in their vital areas, there is nothing mystical about it. Whether it was done with Excalibur, the God Blade, or an adamantium sword, the end result is still a normal wound.

It is very different in its severity, which is where you are getting very confused, I think.

And I will post the scan later when I can.

Sigh*... So you're compairing long term damage to short term damage. Really. You are completely ignoring the "type" of damage being done. So if Thor got his heart snatched out in battle, you would consider the rainbow wound to be more fatal? This is insane.

team one barring weakness exploitation

They aren't beating T2

Originally posted by guy222
They aren't beating T2
yeah they are

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm - arm burning occurs in real life. Down to the bone. Nothing inherently mystical about that.

With the liver incident, afterwards, did he still have broken glass for a liver? Simple question.

As for the stabbing,yes, still normal. I can stab someone in their vital areas, there is nothing mystical about it. Whether it was done with Excalibur, the God Blade, or an adamantium sword, the end result is still a normal wound.

It is very different in its severity, which is where you are getting very confused, I think.

And I will post the scan later when I can.

Tbf, there's nothing normal about having you arm burned to the bone and just carrying on like it's whatever. Same goes for having your liver transmuted into shards of broken glass.

Also being stabbed by the God Butcher is on an entirely different level from normal blades as indicated here:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16026625/Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-013.jpg.html

The weapon was literally eating him away from the inside. Thor however hardened his mind and ignored the enormous pain.