Spock (reboot) vs. Darth Vader (movies only not clone wars flick)

Originally posted by dadudemon
3 years ago, we were told we cannot make threads where one character is clearly gimped. I believe this happened in the top-gun-transformers thread...or maybe it was the first thread that gimped after that ruling was made?

Basically, you need to gimp Khan, equally, to account for Vader's missing force powers.

Which force powers are missing? All of them including battle-precog? If so, that's clearly a gimp so severe that even RJ would protest.

No, I guess everyone agrees Spock destroys him hand to hand. I've seen Unicron threads against McClane. People are sensitive and weak. Running to mods has always been a huge target for mental weakness to me over a simple disagreement in a thread.

Pre cog is there just not force choking or what not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you think Anakin can win with his force powers minus the tactic force choke ?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Depends on the environment. If he has enough room to hop around and get some sort of pseudo sword, he could take it, especially if he can push Spock away if he gets in the danger zone.

Well he was able to chain that rhino thing in episode two. It's not so much a sword as it is something he can use for offence. Jedi aren't exactly boxers

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well he was able to chain that rhino thing in episode two. It's not so much a sword as it is something he can use for offence. Jedi aren't exactly boxers

Originally posted by quanchi112
Really like Star Wars but geez its always hatred and fanboyism with you. Just black and white.

Just because Vader loses iyo doesn't mean I hate Star Wars. It just means Vader losses, Andy Griffith.

No you don't. I'm sure you'll be bandwagoning SW when the new film comes out though.

You took away Vader's powers ("no Force powers"😉 and put him up against a Vulcan who's shown us he's a badass in a H2H fight no less. But please, continue dancing and telling us you had no spite intentions in mind over getting your ass handed to you in your other Vader thread, as lying is your thing 🙂

So basically a highly trained human vs a highly trained Vulcan. The Vulcan will win on superior stats alone.

Originally posted by Robtard
No you don't. I'm sure you'll be bandwagoning SW when the new film comes out though.

You took away Vader's powers ("no Force powers"😉 and put him up against a Vulcan who's shown us he's a badass in a H2H fight no less. But please, continue dancing and telling us you had no spite intentions in mind over getting your ass handed to you in your other Vader thread, as lying is your thing 🙂

Anakin still has precog. Quit crying since Vader loses. It's ok in your mind when he wins in stomp fashion( I disagree) but cry when he loses. It's because you're biased.

Originally posted by Newjak
So basically a highly trained human vs a highly trained Vulcan. The Vulcan will win on superior stats alone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will probably enjoy Abrams Star Wars look what he did with Star Trek. I loved ROTS far better than any original film to begin with.

Anakin still has precog. Quit crying since Vader loses. It's ok in your mind when he wins in stomp fashion( I disagree) but cry when he loses. It's because you're biased.

Preemptive bandwagon-boi'ing, you're adapting and learning 👆

You said "no force powers"; Precog is a Force power, you SW tourist.

Spock barely gives him a nerve pinch and poor Anny falls down a whimpering idiot

Originally posted by Robtard

You said "no force powers"; Precog is a Force power, you SW tourist.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Humans don't have precog though. Do you still favor Spock ?

If Vader can get Precog that means he will have better reaction times than Spock for sure, I don't know if it will be enough to overcome the strength gap in a pure H2H fight. I will still be inclined to pick Spock in that scenario.

Originally posted by Newjak
I thought you said no Force Powers? Precog is a part of Force powers.

If Vader can get Precog that means he will have better reaction times than Spock for sure, I don't know if it will be enough to overcome the strength gap in a pure H2H fight. I will still be inclined to pick Spock in that scenario.

quan wasn't aware their precog comes from the force, it comes from not beong smart enough to follow what is stated/shown on screen.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
but there's no wookipedia page which states this explicitly.

Actually there is, I just looked it up: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Precognition

So Quanchi once again either fails at wookieepedia searching or possibly comprehension.

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually there is, I just looked it up: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Precognition

So Quanchi once again either fails at wookieepedia searching or possibly comprehension.

quanchi wont like that page since it doesnt fit his arbitrary narrative. therefore it wont count. clown

Anakin has a small chance. As his robot arm has significantly greater strength than human, so perhaps his blows specifically with that arm will wear Spock down. But without pre-cog and his other Force Powers...

Originally posted by Robtard
Preemptive bandwagon-boi'ing, you're adapting and learning 👆

You said "no force powers"; Precog is a Force power, you SW tourist.

Yes, when asked precog is allowed. I felt it was necessary since you cried Anakin loses proving how weak Anakin is without his powers.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
but there's no wookipedia page which states this explicitly.

Originally posted by Newjak
I thought you said no Force Powers? Precog is a part of Force powers.

If Vader can get Precog that means he will have better reaction times than Spock for sure, I don't know if it will be enough to overcome the strength gap in a pure H2H fight. I will still be inclined to pick Spock in that scenario.

Ok, still with precog and his artificial hand he loses. I agree.