Riddick vs. Jango Fett

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by jaden101
Obi was moving when he was deflecting the shots that would've killed him. Jango can hit a moving target.

YOu're seriously arguing that Riddick can jump high enough to 'stick him with his knives'? So we're talking Riddick jumping 50 feet in the air and as much again horizontally? That's what you've arguing?. I'd like to see the feats to back that up.

Obi knew he could deflect them so until he Didnt have a saber he didn't have to move.

I think Riddick can shoot him and get close to him. That's what I think provided Hes even somewhat ok after the initial blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I think Riddick can shoot him and get close to him. That's what I think provided Hes even somewhat ok after the initial blast.

what feats is that based on then?

Unfortunately, because Quanchi took the side of Riddick, everyone is arguing against Riddick.

Riddick wins and with ease. Riddick is well into the superhuman level in strength, reaction time, and speed.

Since the OP did not bar it, the animated film counts, too. Don't get me started about the exaggerated feats Riddick has in that film.

Originally posted by jaden101
what feats is that based on then?
The movies with Riddick in them. Are you dense ?

Originally posted by dadudemon

Riddick wins and with ease. Riddick is well into the superhuman level in strength, reaction time, and speed.

Since the OP did not bar it, the animated film counts, too. Don't get me started about the exaggerated feats Riddick has in that film.

Good point, forgot about the animated film.

Originally posted by jaden101
what feats is that based on then?
His right and left feats.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Good point, forgot about the animated film.
So you concede ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The movies with Riddick in them. Are you dense ?

Feats. Physical actions his character does in the films that show him jumping high enough and far enough to take out a man who can fly.

or shots accurate enough and from far enough away.

Any time you're ready.

Originally posted by jaden101
Feats. Physical actions his character does in the films that show him jumping high enough and far enough to take out a man who can fly.

or shots accurate enough and from far enough away.

Any time you're ready.

Shoots him. There aren't any feats of Jango safely shooting anyone here to back your stance. See the Obi fight.

Start objectively debating. It's getting old.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede ?

Wasn't aware I was debating.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Wasn't aware I was debating.
Say Riddick wins and it'll stop.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Shoots him. There aren't any feats of Jango safely shooting anyone here to back your stance. See the Obi fight.

Start objectively debating. It's getting old.

'Objectively debating'? you mean your classic 'it happened off-screen' type of debating?

Here's what happens on screen. Every one of jango's shots would've hit Obi as he was charging him unless they were deflected. That was from a distance of 100ft and closing while firing from the hip. Everyone of his shots would've hit obi-wan whilst jango was flying backward and upward at speed had obi-wan not moved out of the way. Jango's shot with his grappling hook hit exactly where he wanted it to hit, inch perfect, whilst flying. Riddick's shooting feats? He hits 1 man who is standing still with a gun with a very wide spread of fire from 5ft. He hits another man jumping straight at him from point blank range. These are objective, on-screen feats that show that jango could easily hit Riddick and that Riddick has no feats to show he could hit jango at distance.

The end. Off you pop. You get a 'must try/troll harder' grade. Disappointing. But not unexpected.

Originally posted by jaden101
'Objectively debating'? you mean your classic 'it happened off-screen' type of debating?

Here's what happens on screen. Every one of jango's shots would've hit Obi as he was charging him unless they were deflected. That was from a distance of 100ft and closing while firing from the hip. Everyone of his shots would've hit obi-wan whilst jango was flying backward and upward at speed had obi-wan not moved out of the way. Jango's shot with his grappling hook hit exactly where he wanted it to hit, inch perfect, whilst flying. Riddick's shooting feats? He hits 1 man who is standing still with a gun with a very wide spread of fire from 5ft. He hits another man jumping straight at him from point blank range. These are objective, on-screen feats that show that jango could easily hit Riddick and that Riddick has no feats to show he could hit jango at distance.

The end. Off you pop. You get a 'must try/troll harder' grade. Disappointing. But not unexpected.

What are you referring to ? Please calm down.

Yes, save the ones where Obi didn't have a light saber. Whoops. Yes, he can use a grappling hook with far more precision and accuracy than his blaster. I agree 100 percent. You left out the fact he was not looking and the third blast. We see Jango completely fail to hit a direct blast to Obi even injuring him. He had ample opportunities to do so but was off target. That's objective.

Riddick was mowing down enemies left and right. Riddick showed the reflexes and accuracy to tag The Lord Marshal. That's far more impressive than Jango failing to even injure a light saber less Obi.

^^^Objective debating. 🙂

Ps. Y.w.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Say Riddick wins and it'll stop.

(it's a gif, I know it's not the best source but I only put 5secs into it)
the distance of the field is greater than this. With this force can it penetrate Jangos armor that did show some level of durability to at least blunt force?

What's the lord marshals stats when not doing that funky soul speed?

Could a guy with a jetpack avoid any vitals riddick is aiming for being hit of not avoid the hit altogether?

Can riddick throw that blade with such good aim while moving, shooting, trying to close the distance without any cover to speak of?

Would he have enough time to throw that knife with enough force to reach jango and be a threat?

Obviously the fight isn't going to be that close of the wide range gun he was given would be an advantage not a 'disadvantage' as some think. If riddick has armor can it take a shot from star wars beam/laser weapons?

Was the lord marshal just cocky and let his guard down for a moment which riddick used against him?

How likely will that happen with jango and if it did how could he use it to his advantage given the questionable state of his range ability and Jangos mobility?

You haven't done much but repeat yourself about one or two things and mainly crap on jango. It seems like you don't have much to fall back on here and i can understand why since he is mainly a close combat fighter and the set up doesn't favor him. Nevemind in the movies it can get iffy on whats what. The way he tagged lord marshal can even work against him since it becomes a game of accepting everything else from the films that didn't show that level of 'instinct' or 'reflex' , take it as a prediction of where he would be since lord marshal was being attacked and riddick knew he would go for the weapon or that he operates at that heightened state at all times since the end of the movie which is harder to prove since the new movie is coming out. It's not easy but try to build some sort of case.. Repeating Jangos flaws doesn't help riddick.
Jango had good aim, his shots being deflected doesn't take away from the fact they went where he wanted them to go and that riddick has no means to deflect them. Sure he missed some but as of now he is still much better than riddick who used a wide range weapon and killed a couple guys from close to mid range. So far your argument is jango couldn't kill named characters important to the plot and riddick could kill fodder with ease.

(I just like this gif and found it when looking for the other one so I put it up 😄 )
Please don't reply to this with jango bashing, I'd like it if you focused a bit more on what I actually wrote instead of just repeating yourself.
All iv done is share opinion and ask questions to clarify things to possibly change my opinion. I'm not debating you I'm a voice in the room trying to help things along instead of letting it turn into another waiting game to see who gives up first.

Originally posted by SevenShackles

(it's a gif, I know it's not the best source but I only put 5secs into it)
the distance of the field is greater than this. With this force can it penetrate Jangos armor that did show some level of durability to at least blunt force?

What's the lord marshals stats when not doing that funky soul speed?

Could a guy with a jetpack avoid any vitals riddick is aiming for being hit of not avoid the hit altogether?

Can riddick throw that blade with such good aim while moving, shooting, trying to close the distance without any cover to speak of?

Would he have enough time to throw that knife with enough force to reach jango and be a threat?

Obviously the fight isn't going to be that close of the wide range gun he was given would be an advantage not a 'disadvantage' as some think. If riddick has armor can it take a shot from star wars beam/laser weapons?

Was the lord marshal just cocky and let his guard down for a moment which riddick used against him?

How likely will that happen with jango and if it did how could he use it to his advantage given the questionable state of his range ability and Jangos mobility?

You haven't done much but repeat yourself about one or two things and mainly crap on jango. It seems like you don't have much to fall back on here and i can understand why since he is mainly a close combat fighter and the set up doesn't favor him. Nevemind in the movies it can get iffy on whats what. The way he tagged lord marshal can even work against him since it becomes a game of accepting everything else from the films that didn't show that level of 'instinct' or 'reflex' , take it as a prediction of where he would be since lord marshal was being attacked and riddick knew he would go for the weapon or that he operates at that heightened state at all times since the end of the movie which is harder to prove since the new movie is coming out. It's not easy but try to build some sort of case.. Repeating Jangos flaws doesn't help riddick.
Jango had good aim, his shots being deflected doesn't take away from the fact they went where he wanted them to go and that riddick has no means to deflect them. Sure he missed some but as of now he is still much better than riddick who used a wide range weapon and killed a couple guys from close to mid range. So far your argument is jango couldn't kill named characters important to the plot and riddick could kill fodder with ease.

(I just like this gif and found it when looking for the other one so I put it up 😄 )
Please don't reply to this with jango bashing, I'd like it if you focused a bit more on what I actually wrote instead of just repeating yourself.
All iv done is share opinion and ask questions to clarify things to possibly change my opinion. I'm not debating you I'm a voice in the room trying to help things along instead of letting it turn into another waiting game to see who gives up first.

Awesome reflexes and accuracy. Greater than Jango who was knocked around by Obi.

Exceptional strength and reflexes to do the speed thing to begin with. Riddick showed the skill to tag him and later kill him while he used the soul speed thing.

🙂 🙂

Doubtful, since he really Didnt avoid and couldn't put down someone without a gun.

Why not ? We have seen him fight multiple foes and use his blades and a gun in tandem while cooperating with Kyra.

Absolutely. Obi can be a threat to him with just his fists.

Yes, I don't see why not since he tanked a laer blast from Vaako.

We've seen him fail at a longer distance. We've seen people such as Obi and Mace separate distance while avoiding laser blasts, missile fire, and a flame thrower. That's all on screen. You have nothing save wishful thinking.

We later see Riddick kill Lord Marshal with his soul speed as he uses it to avoid Vaako. That's impressive and far more than incompetent Jango.

Separate your sentences into smaller paragraphs. News flash, most people repeat themselves.

Riddick doesn't need to deflect shots. He has a gun himself and is much more elusive than Obi who avoided Jango's attacks minus even a weapon.

If Jango can't even beat a weapon less foe with everything else in his favor here what chance does he have against a highly skilled opponent with a ranged weapon and his knives. Think about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What are you referring to ?

Your utterly laughable assertion that Riddick shot 5-7 guys 'off-screen' and using these imaginary, non-existent actions as feats to back up your argument. Not really surprising you're laughed at by everyone on these boards for you obvious trolling.

Originally posted by jaden101
Your utterly laughable assertion that Riddick shot 5-7 guys 'off-screen' and using these imaginary, non-existent actions as feats to back up your argument. Not really surprising you're laughed at by everyone on these boards for you obvious trolling.
Jango didn't even take out a weapon less Jedi. I mean come on. What planet are you from ?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
Hipefully, jaden sees this and the shame takes over.

Yawn. You're boring. You lost. Again.