Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a notable enemy but played no significant part in determining the outcome of the war.No, it isn't. Khan's guns rip into flesh not cause minor headaches.
I wouldn't say he had no part at all he was still a threat with both the military and individual.
Minor headaches aren't what cause you to struggle like Luke did and cry for your dad and squirm and almost die.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He was a threat but that didn't mean he determined who won the war and when.
I wouldn't say he had no part at all he was still a threat with both the military and individual.Minor headaches aren't what cause you to struggle like Luke did and cry for your dad and squirm and almost die.
It hurt but it went away just like a minor headache. Shame.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a threat but that didn't mean he determined who won the war and when.It hurt but it went away just like a minor headache. Shame.
It hurt and it caused him great pain enough to where it hurt to even attempt to move. Sidious is powerful with lightning as he even caused maul great pain when he used it upon him. Maul is known for his high pain tolerance.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2A headache makes me move around in discomfort. Maul was in pain too but I bet he walked away with no significant injuries whatsoever just like Luke. 😂
It hurt and it caused him great pain enough to where it hurt to even attempt to move. Sidious is powerful with lightning as he even caused maul great pain when he used it upon him. Maul is known for his high pain tolerance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
A headache makes me move around in discomfort. Maul was in pain too but I bet he walked away with no significant injuries whatsoever just like Luke. 😂
You said minor discomfort and that was no headache that was torrents of force lightning. If you squirm like that from a headache you have a problem well that would be speculation as we don't know for sure and also his entire lower half was bionic. So your inference is baseless.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Well some headaches cause people to fidget and bellow out in pain. It hasn't directly killed anyone so it's not impressive.
You said minor discomfort and that was no headache that was torrents of force lightning. If you squirm like that from a headache you have a problem well that would be speculation as we don't know for sure and also his entire lower half was bionic. So your inference is baseless.
Maybe some newer Sith will outshine Sheev in the nu films.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Well some headaches cause people to fidget and bellow out in pain. It hasn't directly killed anyone so it's not impressive.Maybe some newer Sith will outshine Sheev in the nu films.
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Not like Luke. If they do they need to suck it up. Doesn't matter if it hasn't killed anyone directly, it's still very powerful.
I doubt it.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2If it hasn't killed one person directly we can conclude its not very powerful.
Not like Luke. If they do they need to suck it up. Doesn't matter if it hasn't killed anyone directly, it's still very powerful.I doubt it.
You don't know what doubt means. When their feats shit on Sheev's I'll be there to pour salt in your fanboy wounds.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If it hasn't killed one person directly we can conclude its not very powerful.You don't know what doubt means. When their feats shit on Sheev's I'll be there to pour salt in your fanboy wounds.
If it hasn't killed someone directly it doesn't mean it's not powerful, just not kill strong or we look at the circumstances in place. 1) Sidious didn't start off using full power yet still had Luke on squirming and begging for help, 2) he made maul squirm, someone known for their physical durability,3) had enough power to kill Darth Vader, 4) his power thus his lightning was so powerful that vader didn't want to take him over without the help of Luke, 5) capable incapacitating opponents. Pretty powerful stuff. Lightning had Luke struggling while he wasn being subjected to it.
Apparently I do know what it means if I use it often. We don't know any Sith to show and if Sith from EU didn't surpass palpatine than episode 7 Sith won't. Also to please my standards they have to surpass Dark Empire Palpatine which will be impossible.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2If it hasn't been shown to directly kill a fleshy person then we can conclude it isn't powerful. He used full power and Luke walked like like **** that weak noise.
If it hasn't killed someone directly it doesn't mean it's not powerful, just not kill strong or we look at the circumstances in place. 1) Sidious didn't start off using full power yet still had Luke on squirming and begging for help, 2) he made maul squirm, someone known for their physical durability,3) had enough power to kill Darth Vader, 4) his power thus his lightning was so powerful that vader didn't want to take him over without the help of Luke, 5) capable incapacitating opponents. Pretty powerful stuff. Lightning had Luke struggling while he wasn being subjected to it.Apparently I do know what it means if I use it often. We don't know any Sith to show and if Sith from EU didn't surpass palpatine than episode 7 Sith won't. Also to please my standards they have to surpass Dark Empire Palpatine which will be impossible.
Eu isn't canon. The new Sith will make him look weak. Mark my words, boy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If it hasn't been shown to directly kill a fleshy person then we can conclude it isn't powerful. He used full power and Luke walked like like **** that weak noise.Eu isn't canon. The new Sith will make him look weak. Mark my words, boy.
No,that's not what it means at all. Palpatine used full power the last time he did it without stopping. He continuously ramped up the power.
Irrelevant. My point is EU Sith have been blown out of proportion at times and none of them scratch Sidious except Caedus and Vitiate. Canon has consistently downplayed their characters like Dooku, as of the movies. To match by standards they must pass DE Sidious. If they don't then I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He set it out to kill and it didn't significantly injure him. Khan crushes skulls while Sheev gives headaches.
No,that's not what it means at all. Palpatine used full power the last time he did it without stopping. He continuously ramped up the power.Irrelevant. My point is EU Sith have been blown out of proportion at times and none of them scratch Sidious except Caedus and Vitiate. Canon has consistently downplayed their characters like Dooku, as of the movies. To match by standards they must pass DE Sidious. If they don't then I'm not impressed.
Eu isn't canon so it's irrelevant and against forum rules, sport.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
He set it out to kill and it didn't significantly injure him. Khan crushes skulls while Sheev gives headaches.Eu isn't canon so it's irrelevant and against forum rules, sport.
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On his last try. Then he would have killed of Vader would have never thrown him off the ledge. Sheev would show us Khans tortured skull through his lightning.
I'm not using them as evidence. EU is known for how they use characters and make them very powerful such as Emperor Vitiate, or Abeloth while canon hasn't just given a lot of its characters a lot of power.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2The duration set to kill lasted longer than ten seconds. That's not very powerful. Vader was weak and his life depended on his containment suit.
On his last try. Then he would have killed of Vader would have never thrown him off the ledge. Sheev would show us Khans tortured skull through his lightning.I'm not using them as evidence. EU is known for how they use characters and make them very powerful such as Emperor Vitiate, or Abeloth while canon hasn't just given a lot of its characters a lot of power.
Eu doesn't mean shit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The duration set to kill lasted longer than ten seconds. That's not very powerful. Vader was weak and his life depended on his containment suit.Eu doesn't mean shit.
Considering he ramped up the power and was trying to torture Luke first and Luke was struggling to move and he wasn't being hit at that point shows real power. Oh well, Vader has been subjected to lightning before by Starkiller on different occasions and still survived. Also even without that Vader would have no doubt laced his suit with some safety measures so the fact Sidious could pierce it shows power.
In this case it does. If EU Sith can surpass palpatine than no other Sith will.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Considering he ramped up the power and was trying to torture Luke first and Luke was struggling to move and he wasn't being hit at that point shows real power. Oh well, Vader has been subjected to lightning before by Starkiller on different occasions and still survived. Also even without that Vader would have no doubt laced his suit with some safety measures so the fact Sidious could pierce it shows power.In this case it does. If EU Sith can surpass palpatine than no other Sith will.
I had thought Sids penetrated Vader's armour due to exposed pieces, like his lopped off hand, and various injuries he sustained at Luke's hands. Eh, either way.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He hit him with the Lightning after he said he was going to kill him. This is simply not that powerful. Nah. The Lightning short circuited his shitty suit. Luke tanked it like a boss.
Considering he ramped up the power and was trying to torture Luke first and Luke was struggling to move and he wasn't being hit at that point shows real power. Oh well, Vader has been subjected to lightning before by Starkiller on different occasions and still survived. Also even without that Vader would have no doubt laced his suit with some safety measures so the fact Sidious could pierce it shows power.In this case it does. If EU Sith can surpass palpatine than no other Sith will.
Eu isn't canon this it is quite irrelevant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He hit him with the Lightning after he said he was going to kill him. This is simply not that powerful. Nah. The Lightning short circuited his shitty suit. Luke tanked it like a boss.Eu isn't canon this it is quite irrelevant.
Once he said you will due that's the closest thing to full power if not full power that he demonstrated. Yes because it was powerful enough to do so. So you call whimpering, crying, and begging for your dad, steam coming from your body, and you struggling to move, tanking it like a boss?
It being canon is not the point, the point is that EU has no,limits and has blown some characters out of proportion with planet devastating feats and none of these characters match up with Sidious. So with that what hope does khan have and what hope would any future Sith have.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He was trying to kill him. He announced it. Yes, because he was not scared and when Sheev was but by it he begged Anakin to save him as well. Anakin saved then both but Sheev was permanently disfigured. 😂
Once he said you will due that's the closest thing to full power if not full power that he demonstrated. Yes because it was powerful enough to do so. So you call whimpering, crying, and begging for your dad, steam coming from your body, and you struggling to move, tanking it like a boss?It being canon is not the point, the point is that EU has no,limits and has blown some characters out of proportion with planet devastating feats and none of these characters match up with Sidious. So with that what hope does khan have and what hope would any future Sith have.
Eu isn't canon so do not bring up irrelevant feats in the movie vs., troll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was trying to kill him. He announced it. Yes, because he was not scared and when Sheev was but by it he begged Anakin to save him as well. Anakin saved then both but Sheev was permanently disfigured. 😂Eu isn't canon so do not bring up irrelevant feats in the movie vs., troll.
Yes once he said now Skywalker you will die that was his full power or close to full power. Him being scared or not is irrelevant. He was hurt and in pain and more from palpatine and palpatines lightning was powerful enough to,disable Vaders suit.
Again I'm not trying to use it as evidence I'm just giving you a realistic comparison by saying even Sith in the EU don't beat Sidious. EU has been put on a galactic scale. No Sith in EU or canon beats Sidious. I'm just giving you a realistic comparison not,trying to bring EU in as actual evidence for a debate.