Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by playa1258201 pages

Bullshit.

Originally posted by playa1258
Bullshit.

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99% of what quanchi spews from his sewer of a mouth is BS...

Originally posted by playa1258
Bullshit.
The clip was posted which showed evidence Yoda's reaction time to a Dooku attack was four seconds, Khan guns him down.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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99% of what quanchi spews from his sewer of a mouth is BS...

Clips have been provided by myself and Kt definitively proving Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clips have been provided by myself and Kt definitively proving Khan wins.

Why do you post on this forum? You keep saying you have without a doubt proven your arguments and all this stuff.

So it would mean that either you feel everyone here but you is an utter moron too stupid to grasp your proof..or that we know you are right, but won't agree with you because we are trolling you.

So I just don't see the appeal then in terms of why? If everyone here is just secretly trolling you then you just seem to continually fall for it. If everyone here is trolling you..that would mean all you're doing for them is providing additional amusement.

You will notice I said the other option besides people trolling you is that people are just genuinely this stupid. Which if THAT is true why do you stick around? We'd have to be of below average intelligence if we can't comprehend your arguments, so why stick around? Do you feel you can only shine around those of below average intelligence? Are you just going to come at me with a cliche response about how you just love to troll people?

I don't think you enjoy having discussions. I think all you enjoy is the opportunity to berate people. You clearly despise everyone here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The clip was posted which showed evidence Yoda's reaction time to a Dooku attack was four seconds, Khan guns him down.

See all you look at are certain scenes and disregard the rest...

What about the scene at the Jedi temple in the 3rd prequel where Yoda is owning the lions share of a large contingent of storm troopers convergering on him?

If you remember, he demonstrated superhuman reaction times during this scene; in particular when he deflected the fire of the final storm trooper that attacked him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRV-C9qBaYA

Now whats the difference in Yoda's reaction time in this scene vs the ones you reference quanchi?

The ones you reference feature Sith who are actively using their Force powers to blind Yoda (Jedi actively attempt to do this to the Sith as well)...

Of course the movie doesnt go into that much detail on the subtleties of Sith/Jedi battles; you'd have to have read the novels to know that...

Which you havent...

Originally posted by Surtur
Why do you post on this forum? You keep saying you have without a doubt proven your arguments and all this stuff.

So it would mean that either you feel everyone here but you is an utter moron too stupid to grasp your proof..or that we know you are right, but won't agree with you because we are trolling you.

So I just don't see the appeal then in terms of why? If everyone here is just secretly trolling you then you just seem to continually fall for it. If everyone here is trolling you..that would mean all you're doing for them is providing additional amusement.

You will notice I said the other option besides people trolling you is that people are just genuinely this stupid. Which if THAT is true why do you stick around? We'd have to be of below average intelligence if we can't comprehend your arguments, so why stick around? Do you feel you can only shine around those of below average intelligence? Are you just going to come at me with a cliche response about how you just love to troll people?

I don't think you enjoy having discussions. I think all you enjoy is the opportunity to berate people. You clearly despise everyone here.

Quanchi typically argues from a position of ignorance...

In the case of this thread as well as the one featuring Palpatine, quanchi isnt as intimately familiar with the source material as he pretends he is...

This, combined with his own innate failings, cause him to draw conclusions that are utterly ridiculous are pretains the subject matter at hand...

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Originally posted by Surtur
Why do you post on this forum? You keep saying you have without a doubt proven your arguments and all this stuff.

So it would mean that either you feel everyone here but you is an utter moron too stupid to grasp your proof..or that we know you are right, but won't agree with you because we are trolling you.

So I just don't see the appeal then in terms of why? If everyone here is just secretly trolling you then you just seem to continually fall for it. If everyone here is trolling you..that would mean all you're doing for them is providing additional amusement.

You will notice I said the other option besides people trolling you is that people are just genuinely this stupid. Which if THAT is true why do you stick around? We'd have to be of below average intelligence if we can't comprehend your arguments, so why stick around? Do you feel you can only shine around those of below average intelligence? Are you just going to come at me with a cliche response about how you just love to troll people?

I don't think you enjoy having discussions. I think all you enjoy is the opportunity to berate people. You clearly despise everyone here.

Because I enjoy pushing people's shit in. I like making you upset while at the same time basing my arguments off of the evidence not my feelings.

See my above answer. I do not despise everyone here but when I am right and it happens all the time I'll berate while I'm backing my argument up.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
See all you look at are certain scenes and disregard the rest...

What about the scene at the Jedi temple in the 3rd prequel where Yoda is owning the lions share of a large contingent of storm troopers convergering on him?

If you remember, he demonstrated superhuman reaction times during this scene; in particular when he deflected the fire of the final storm trooper that attacked him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRV-C9qBaYA

Now whats the difference in Yoda's reaction time in this scene vs the ones you reference quanchi?

The ones you reference feature Sith who are actively using their Force powers to blind Yoda (Jedi actively attempt to do this to the Sith as well)...

Of course the movie doesnt go into that much detail on the subtleties of Sith/Jedi battles; you'd have to have read the novels to know that...

Which you havent...

That is a relevant scene. We do see Kenobi is there as well taking down clones himself so we cannot conclude that Yoda looks anywhere near as impressive as Khan who fought alone.

Kt referenced that scene. He posted that scene impressed by Yoda flipping while allowing Dooku multiple seconds to attack Yoda. I am glad you asked. Firstly the clones do not possess the weaponry of Khan. Those blasters aren't the phaser cannon nor are they comparable to the phaser rifle. Secondly the clones do not possess the feats, the strength, the tactical acumen of Khan. while this does prove he can deflect quick laser fire this doesn't apply to the phaser cannon.

Like any highly skilled combatant the higher the skill and the greater the weaponry the stronger they are. If a bounty hunter kills a Jedi it is impressive but this has no direct relation to Yoda. He does kill the featless fodder but this doesn't mean he stomps a mud hole in Jango Fett since he stands out due to his feats. Yoda may deflect a shot or two from the phaser rifle but that doesn't mean he can ward off the incoming assault from both of Khan's guns aimed at one lone target in Yoda.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Quanchi typically argues from a position of ignorance...

In the case of this thread as well as the one featuring Palpatine, quanchi isnt as intimately familiar with the source material as he pretends he is...

This, combined with his own innate failings, cause him to draw conclusions that are utterly ridiculous are pretains the subject matter at hand...

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I am intimately familiar with the source material and I am backing it up with canon events to bolster my position.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am intimately familiar with the source material and I am backing it up with canon events to bolster my position.

So you are aware that Jedi and Sith attempt to smother each others precog?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you are aware that Jedi and Sith attempt to smother each others precog?
Provide proof of when this occurred to back your case. Another misinterpretation of the source material on your end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Provide proof of when this occurred to back your case. Another misinterpretation of the source material on your end.

The movies dont emphasze this aspect to their battles; the novels do however...

Have you read any of the novels?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The movies dont emphasze this aspect to their battles; the novels do however...

Have you read any of the novels?

Novels contradict and the films tell us enough. But go ahead and post the quote.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Novels contradict and the films tell us enough. But go ahead and post the quote.

But the novels are the source material for the movies...

Are you saying that what the novels give us isnt valid?

You do know that novels almost always provide more detail that movies do...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_suppression

Some educational material for you quanchi...

@quanchi

I cant recall the exact wording from the novel verbatim, but I can recall an instance from the Revenge of the Sith novel where Force Suppression is emphasized, but the movie fails to do so in the exact same scene...

Remember in Revenge of the Sith where Palpatine faces off against Mace Windu and the other 3 Jedi Masters?

Palpatine slices up the 3 Jedi Masters like they were nothing...

How did that happen?

That happened because Palpatine suppressed their precog to the point that they had no idea what he was about to do and were rendered completely helpless to his assault (the movies choreography of this scene was very crappy however)...

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Concession accepted. You can't come up with a feat that matches Yoda's reaction time. I accept your concession in full. Yoda wins.