Maybe slade can take shadowland bt. He seems very unimpressive and watered down compared to his spider-man busting days. Then again everybody jobbed on that stupid arc.
Before that arc, slade isnt even remotely close to BT's stats. Thats not factoring other powers like his eye beams, active healing, etc
Nth metal slade is in the tons clearly. His healing factor helps him survive hundred story falls. And even though the armor has it's ups and downs it still gives him greater strength and has shown to be bulletproof and very durable. Don't undersell Slade here.
And people also forget that he is one of the prep gods.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Maybe slade can take shadowland bt. He seems very unimpressive and watered down compared to his spider-man busting days. Then again everybody jobbed on that stupid arc.Before that arc, slade isnt even remotely close to BT's stats. Thats not factoring other powers like his eye beams, active healing, etc
BT never did much, though. Even under Brubaker he didn't do too much, and when he did he was either ambushed, or completely outclassed (Master Izo mainly).
The few times Bru let him do his thing, he was still pretty insanely formidable, shrugging off getting riddled with bullets and walking around while on fire with seemingly no trouble..
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Maybe slade can take shadowland bt. He seems very unimpressive and watered down compared to his spider-man busting days. Then again everybody jobbed on that stupid arc.Before that arc, slade isnt even remotely close to BT's stats. Thats not factoring other powers like his eye beams, active healing, etc
you're overselling BT a little. With the "not including eye beams and shit. Slade carries grenades that put down Superboy.
Originally posted by Vanguard
you're overselling BT a little. With the "not including eye beams and shit. Slade carries grenades that put down Superboy.
He's really not.
BT's speed is pretty high end. If not Spidey level, close enough to dodge bullets. His durability and regen let him tank a lot, from Spidey's punches, to bullets, explosions, being set on fire..
Also, there's no prep in this match, so his prep feats won't be of use. He's stuck with whatever his normal gear is.
Originally posted by cdtm
He's really not.BT's speed is pretty high end. If not Spidey level, close enough to dodge bullets. His durability and regen let him tank a lot, from Spidey's punches, to bullets, explosions, being set on fire..
Also, there's no prep in this match, so his prep feats won't be of use. He's stuck with whatever his normal gear is.
He's a lot like Batman in that he's always carrying whatever gives him the edge he needs; and like I said before, with his ability to use an opponents strength against them in random encounters. Every fight with Slade even if it's a random encounter is like facing a prepped Slade. Giving him true prep is a guaranteed win.
prep god likely comes from his pwning of the avengers.....anyway, i agree with the doc--slade's better than most with prep, but he's not in the god tier. that's reserved for a precious few.
in a straight off the street meet for the first time battle, i can't really see slade winning too many. bt's durability is just too great. some of ds's feats against the early teen titans are pretty crazy though and get forgotten by many on the forum for some reason. each fight would be awesome to see, but in the end i'd give bt the good majority.
Originally posted by Vanguard
I know BT's good. Real good. But with people on the board having Slade lose to Wolverine and Cap and BT, it makes me say WTF. DC has him touted as the worlds greatest mercenary/assassin. That has to count for something. And with the recent enhancements, he's at least Wolverines equal.
Titles like that mean almost nothing depending on the enemy (if its a bad matchup), situtation and setting. It just so happens that a bt is a bad match up for him in all areas save gear and strategem.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Titles like that mean almost nothing depending on the enemy (if its a bad matchup), situtation and setting. It just so happens that a bt is a bad match up for him in all areas save gear and strategem.
I disagree, especially when we're talking about someone with a great arsenal and superior strategy. Nobody believes in brains over brawn anymore. How do you think Ali beat Foreman, how David beat Goliath, how Mayweather beat a younger Ricky Hatton who could leg press 400 pounds.
Originally posted by Vanguard
I know BT's good. Real good. But with people on the board having Slade lose to Wolverine and Cap and BT, it makes me say WTF. DC has him touted as the worlds greatest mercenary/assassin. That has to count for something. And with the recent enhancements, he's at least Wolverines equal.
Well, trying to get any kind of consensus against Wolverine and Cap is a losing proposition anyways.. There's posters who seriously argue they could beat Thor in straight up melee, or that taking down Hulk isn't PIS...
Which isn't to say all Cap/Wolverine supporters are fanboys. They are near top of the food chain, and have a large history to draw from..
Personally, I think Slade has very good odds against either of them, but that's me.. I also happen to think Spidey should take them easily (As well as Slade), and many would disagree with me there.
Originally posted by Vanguard
I disagree, especially when we're talking about someone with a great arsenal and superior strategy. Nobody believes in brains over brawn anymore. How do you think Ali beat Foreman, how David beat Goliath, how Mayweather beat a younger Ricky Hatton who could leg press 400 pounds.
Those examples you just brought up are irrelevant as they are real people with not so vast physical stat differences compare to fictional characters (save david and goliath part which I don't think is even scientifically/historically 100% credible ...pls don't bring up religion).
new 52 slade might have a great armor, weapons and great strategic mind but that's all he has going for him on this match. Black Tarantula on bios alone is a 25-30 tonner and spider-man has commented on a possible speed advantage bt has over him, same spider-man who is a bonafied bullet dodger. On their encounter, he beat spider-man and took his mask. Couple that rigorous training since youth from the previous black tarantula and you got someone with skills to match up their brawn.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Those examples you just brought up are irrelevant as they are real people with not so vast physical stat differences compare to fictional characters (save david and goliath part which I don't think is even scientifically/historically 100% credible ...pls don't bring up religion).new 52 slade might have a great armor, weapons and great strategic mind but that's all he has going for him on this match. Black Tarantula on bios alone is a 25-30 tonner and spider-man has commented on a possible speed advantage bt has over him, same spider-man who is a bonafied bullet dodger. On their encounter, he beat spider-man and took his mask. Couple that rigorous training since youth from the previous black tarantula and you got someone with skills to match up their brawn.
Yeah, he's a total monster.
BT should chew up and spit out Slade.