Superman(Man of Steel) runs the Marvel gauntlet

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I didn't say Supes doesn't have fast reaction time.

Ooh right. I apologize It was Frostbyte who said that it seemed that supermans speed seemed to be mobile speed.

As I read through the topic I saw what frostbite had said about supermans speed and saw Odekahns reply to him. On the next page I saw you responded to that and without thinking I quoted you and had mistaken you for the one who had said the whole speed being mobile comment lol

anyways where you said this......

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But IIRC he wasn't invisible or untouchable with his speed.

Faroa'a henchman didn't display super speed IIRC, and he was going toe to toe with Supes. Yes Supes ultimately was battering him, but he wasn't untouchable to him, and he got his licks on Supes too.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Ooh right. I apologize It was Frostbyte who said that it seemed that supermans speed seemed to be mobile speed.

As I read through the topic I saw what frostbite had said about supermans speed and saw Odekahns reply to him. On the next page I saw you responded to that and without thinking I quoted you and had mistaken you for the one who had said the whole speed being mobile comment lol

anyways where you said this......

.....had also kind of threw me off as it would seem to support such a claim.

Yes, that was me making the point about mobile speed. Like you pointed out in the trailer, Superman moved out of the way of artillery fire. He didn't duck and dodge around it like Matrix agents do. He just simply got out of the way. Take that as you will.

I'm not saying he doesn't have super speed, because he does have super speed. What I'm simply saying is that the only feats of superspeed we have from the movie is him running or flying or jumping really fast. We don't see him launch dozens of punches in a nano second, nor do we seem grab multiple bullets in the air or do lightning quick blocks or dodges.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, that was me making the point about mobile speed. Like you pointed out in the trailer, Superman [b]moved out of the way of artillery fire. He didn't duck and dodge around it like Matrix agents do. He just simply got out of the way. Take that as you will.

I'm not saying he doesn't have super speed, because he does have super speed. What I'm simply saying is that the only feats of superspeed we have from the movie is him running or flying or jumping really fast. We don't see him launch dozens of punches in a nano second, nor do we seem grab multiple bullets in the air or do lightning quick blocks or dodges. [/B]

I can see your point I just think its arguable is all. Like I said I haven't actually seen it so I really don't have much to say here but I feel from that quick clip that he could just jump out of the way like that when Hulk or Thor throws a punch. Granted he jumped into flight but I don't see why that would change the fact that he jumped out of the way in the first place.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I can see your point I just think its arguable is all. Like I said I haven't actually seen it so I really don't have much to say here but I feel from that quick clip that he could just jump out of the way like that when Hulk or Thor throws a punch. Granted he jumped into flight but I don't see why that would change the fact that he jumped out of the way in the first place.

I think the major difference (which I personally would also like to clarify which is why I'll be re-watching the film) is whether or not Superman's mind can keep up with his superspeed. To elaborate: Does Superman see everything else in slow motion when he goes into super speed? Or does his body simply move in super speed in whatever action he wanted to do.

The primary difference here is that if his mind is not able to keep up with his superspeed, he'll only be able to do simple actions in super speed, like what he has shown in the movie. Run a certain direction. Launch 1 or 2 punches. Fly at a certain angle at super speed. etc.

But if his mind and senses is also capable of super fast reaction times, then he can alter his movements in the middle of superspeed feats. THen he'll be able to do more complex movements. Like delivering super fast punch combinations. Or he'd see bullets in slow motion and he'll be able to easily evade and dodge around them (instead of just running away from them). Or he can type in a computer really fast.

The reason why this is important in this thread is because we're determining whether he can be hit or not. If his body is fast but his mind isn't, then he'll have more or less normal reaction times and that means it would be possible to hit him via normal attacks. Very difficult, but still possible. I mean, sure he's still so fast that you can't catch him, but if you get to attack him fast enough that his mind has no time to react then you can still hit him.

If however he sees everything in slow motion (like how he does in Smallville) then it would be nearly impossible to hit him.

Judging from the movie, it seems that the first theory is more likely.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the major difference (which I personally would also like to clarify which is why I'll be re-watching the film) is whether or not Superman's mind can keep up with his superspeed. To elaborate: Does Superman see everything else in slow motion when he goes into super speed? Or does his body simply move in super speed in whatever action he wanted to do.

The primary difference here is that if his mind is not able to keep up with his superspeed, he'll only be able to do simple actions in super speed, like what he has shown in the movie. Run a certain direction. Launch 1 or 2 punches. Fly at a certain angle at super speed. etc.

But if his mind and senses is also capable of super fast reaction times, then he can alter his movements in the middle of superspeed feats. THen he'll be able to do more complex movements. Like delivering super fast punch combinations. Or he'd see bullets in slow motion and he'll be able to easily evade and dodge around them (instead of just running away from them). Or he can type in a computer really fast.

The reason why this is important in this thread is because we're determining whether he can be hit or not. If his body is fast but his mind isn't, then he'll have more or less normal reaction times and that means it would be possible to hit him via normal attacks. Very difficult, but still possible. I mean, sure he's still so fast that you can't catch him, but if you get to attack him fast enough that his mind has no time to react then you can still hit him.

If however he sees everything in slow motion (like how he does in Smallville) then it would be nearly impossible to hit him.

Judging from the movie, it seems that the first theory is more likely.

Well I totally understand and I would like to say once more Im not really arguing because I haven't seen the movie but the clip I saw would make me think he had to have seen the bullets coming in order to move away from them because it looks like he moves just before they hit him. Although, you could be very right here as you have indeed seen the movie. Once I see it I will make an argument...one way or the other lol.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Well I totally understand and I would like to say once more Im not really arguing because I haven't seen the movie but the clip I saw would make me think he had to have seen the bullets coming in order to move away from them because it looks like he moves just before they hit him. Although, you could be very right here as you have indeed seen the movie. Once I see it I will make an argument...one way or the other lol.

Ok sounds good. At least you'll be able to watch the movie and know what to look for. When most of us watched the movie, we were just content to be wowed. lol.

So yeah, let us know if there are any scenes in MOS where the kryptonians perform complex maneuvers in super speed, like flurries of punches or something.