Originally posted by zopzopWow, you're "baffled" people can have opinions that aren't in the majority? You must not get out much.
Fact is, how many "God Killers" does this make in Marvel? Just off the top of my head I can recall four : Atum, Desak, Chaos King, and now Voldemort. There's probably more I'm missing.[/B]
Claiming the arc isn't interesting or isn't your cup of tea is one thing (not everyone has to like Thor or the mythlogical/cosmic genre). Calling it outright crappy is something else entirely. Seriously, based on what is this a crappy arc? It being your opinion is fine, but really, all you seem to be do doing is bashing it for no reason. I get out plenty, but no, I can't say that I run into people who hate on things that are well received by a wide array of people of different tastes unless they're trying to be hipsters or something.
Does it even matter how many "God Killers" Marvel has? The closest thing to Gorr in terms of personality is Desak, but that wasn't denied by Aaron in the least bit.
Originally posted by zopzop
Gorr killed EVERY God and Pantheon he came across. These pantheons MUST have had skyfathers no? Some planets even have MULTIPLE pantheons and hence MULTIPLE skyfathers, **cough** Earth***cough***. So if that guy really did what the narrator said, he should be more than capable of killing RKT or any other God (yes, even Elders). [/B]
Not all "skyfathers" are equal. You yourself have stated this on occasion; during Secret Invasion, Balder was the "lord of Asgard"...and we know for a fact that Balder's probably High Meta at best. This is a horrible "argument" to make for Gorr and makes no sense when we know for a fact that the Three Thors were Gorr's greatest challenge yet - Old King Thor specifically made Gorr feel fear for the first time in eons - and based on what the three of them have shown, don't match up to RKT's power level.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Claiming the arc isn't interesting or isn't your cup of tea is one thing (not everyone has to like Thor or the mythlogical/cosmic genre). Calling it outright crappy is something else entirely. Seriously, based on what is this a crappy arc? It being your opinion is fine, but really, all you seem to be do doing is bashing it for no reason. I get out plenty, but no, I can't say that I run into people who hate on things that are well received by a wide array of people of different tastes unless they're trying to be hipsters or something.Does it even matter how many "God Killers" Marvel has? The closest thing to Gorr in terms of personality is Desak, but that wasn't denied by Aaron in the least bit.
Not all "skyfathers" are equal. You yourself have stated this on occasion; during Secret Invasion, Balder was the "lord of Asgard"...and we know for a fact that Balder's probably High Meta at best. This is a horrible "argument" to make for Gorr and makes no sense when we know for a fact that the Three Thors were Gorr's greatest challenge yet - Old King Thor specifically made Gorr feel fear for the first time in eons - and based on what the three of them have shown, don't match up to RKT's power level.
Gorr btw didn't just capture and slaughter all the Lords of Heaven, but all the Kings of Hell too (Hell Lord's apparently). Gorr would rape someone like Zeus or Mephisto in the ass most likely.
Modern day Thor is probably going to shove his face into the Big Bang or something though. The Greatest of all the Gods. Learn it, live it, love it.
Originally posted by zopzopSure it matters. Because the character isn't original........at all. It's been done before and done better, IMHO (see that? just my opinion again) with Classic Atum.
Of course they aren't. But out of the THOUSANDS (millions?) of Gods and their pantheons, chances are he's killed a few high skyfathers. We already know he's killed an Elder God. He even killed THREE Thors, who according to the narrator, were the best/greatest of the Gods ('or so the story goes'😉. [/B]
Classic Atum and Gorr are plenty different from one another as are their motivations. So, really, what don't you like about this arc? Feat portrayal, dialogue, art, narration, concept, what? Because really, this is probably one of the best Thor arcs in recent memory, way better than Fraction's crap.
Elder Gods still need feats. And he didn't kill the three Thors, either. Him barely able to beat them all in the sun and requiring to amp off of the gods he had enslaved to match them doesn't bode well against Rune King Thor, who's significantly more powerful than the other Thors. If a Thor with just recently returning Thorforce was able to reel Gorr big time, what the heck do you think RKT with the full measure of the Odin Force and Rune Magic (in addition to cosmic level omniscience) would do to him?
Originally posted by zopzop
If Gorr really did kill off EVERY God he came across, that would mean he slaughtered Skyfathers as well as their entire pantheons. EVERY SINGLE ONE. And if some of those worlds had MULTIPLE Pantheons like Earth does, that would mean he slaughtered multiple skyfathers and pantheons. Why wouldn't he be able to kill RKT?
RKT was clearly as beyond skyfathers as logic is beyond you. That's the neates analogy I can think of at this moment.
Gorr was shitting his pants once Old Thor began to tap into a small portion of his Thorforce. At that level when he semi-punked Gorr, Old Thor was nowhere near RKT's level, he wasn't beginning to approach RKT's pinkie, from an objective viewpoint.
RKT wins, and he does so comfortably, notwithstanding your lowballing and blatant trolling of Thor.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
And how exactly is what Delph wrote relevant to Rune King Thor? Because it's not like RKT is at least a whole tier beyond skyfathers like Odin, some of whose feats border on low Abstract.RKT was clearly as beyond skyfathers as logic is beyond you. That's the neates analogy I can think of at this moment.
Gorr was shitting his pants once Old Thor began to tap into a small portion of his Thorforce. At that level when he semi-punked Gorr, Old Thor was nowhere near RKT's level, he wasn't beginning to approach RKT's pinkie, from an objective viewpoint.
RKT wins, and he does so comfortably, notwithstanding your lowballing and blatant trolling of Thor.
RKT handled business within his pantheon, Gorr was slaughtering entire pantheons universe wide.
If he did indeed do what the narrator said he did, it's not illogical to say he'd kill RKT Thor or any God too.
Originally posted by zopzop
How is it lowballing to say RKT would lose to a guy that killed ENTIRE PANTHEONS of Gods that included their Hell Lords? On panel it said the "[b]Lords of ALL THE HEAVENS were slaughtered like lambs."RKT handled business within his pantheon, Gorr was slaughtering entire pantheons universe wide.
If he did indeed do what the narrator said he did, it's not illogical to say he'd kill RKT Thor or any God too. [/B]
If Gorr shits his pants at a depleted Thorforce/Odinforce blast, he'd flee to the farthest corners of the universe when facing RKT.
Again, RKT doesn't have the static limitations of gods. That was the whole point of that arc: that his experiences as a mortal gave him the same dynamic strength that drives mortals, and hence TWSAIS were unable to anticipate his capabilities. Gorr killed a bunch of gods, good for him. RKT defeated beings that are worshipped by gods.
As said before, RKT is as much beyond skyfathers as straight-forward thinking is beyond zopzop. Gorr's visible struggle to deal with powers far below RKT suggests that this is RKT's fight to lose. Deal with it.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Except it is illogical when we see how the battle with 3 Thors turned out. All of those 3 Thors combined don't even begin to measure upto RKT, yet Gorr had a tough time putting them down.If Gorr shits his pants at a depleted Thorforce/Odinforce blast, he'd flee to the farthest corners of the universe when facing RKT.
When Atum killed the Elder Gods, not one of them was able to resist him like Thor did. When Atum killed the Hell Lords that were illegally seeking to combine their hells into one big Super Hell, not one of them resisted like Thor did. When all the other Thunder and Sun Gods fell to Atum not one of them resisted like Thor did, although Horus put up a tiny struggle and caused Atum slight pain when he ate him.
You mean to tell me Thor was more powerful than those Gods Atum devoured (which included Hell Lords like Mephisto)? Of course not. It's not about power. It's just Thor's tenacity.
This is why the narrator recently called Thor the "greatest of the Gods". Note the word "great" and not "most powerful."
Again, RKT doesn't have the static limitations of gods. That was the whole point of that arc: that his experiences as a mortal gave him the same dynamic strength that drives mortals, and hence TWSAIS were unable to anticipate his capabilities. Gorr killed a bunch of gods, good for him. RKT defeated beings that are worshipped by gods.
As said before, RKT is as much beyond skyfathers as straight-forward thinking is beyond zopzop. Gorr's visible struggle to deal with powers far below RKT suggests that this is RKT's fight to lose. Deal with it.
Originally posted by zopzopHyperbole and on panel feats are different things. Sometimes they corroborate each other. But not once on panel did Gorr fight and defeat anyone on RKT's level. Not all the "Gods" of Asgard are even close to equal for instance. Same can be said about Zeus in comparison to the remaining Gods of the Greek pantheon....
He killed EVERY God/Pantheon/Hell Lord he came across in the entire UNIVERSE (at least one of which was an Elder God).Let that sink in for a sec.
The logic you're using is almost as thin as trying to say Superman would lose to Thor because "Thor is a God".... You need actual arguments beside that to build your case.