Khan Vs Wolverine
Khan faces off with Wolverine in San Francisco just after the crash of the Vengence in Into Darkness.
Wolverine is working for starfleet in this time period and he is straight on Khan's trail when Khan escapes the ship.
Khan is armed with his strength, speed, his mind and other attributes from Star Trek VII he fights as is.
Wolverine fights as is, and he has knowledge of STera tech, even though he hates it..
Who wins on the showdown...?
Khan is stronger, faster, and more skilled than Wolverine. In a pure fist fight Khan should be able to whoop Wolverine for the first few minutes. Unfortunately, Logan's healing factor will become a factor before long. Plus if you include the claws, then Khan probably won't last very long.
It's not fair to make Khan fight barehanded whereas Wolverine is armed with claws. At least give Khan an unbreakable sword or something. He'll still lose in the end due to Wolverine's healing factor, but at least it will be a more even fight.
Originally posted by KingD19
Even without his claws, Wolverine took hits from Blob(much stronger than Khan), and ko'd him with an Adamantium elbow drop. He's also blocking hits from Silver Samurai giant robo-san in Wolverine trailers, and blocked Cyclop's optic beams which had immense kinetic impact force behind them.
I'm not sure we really know just how strong Blob is compared to Khan. Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he's stronger. Plus Khan is better trained. Blob was slow and didn't look like he knew how to throw a punch. He may have been taking blows from Blob but Mystique was beating the crap out of him till he finally managed to gut her.
Without his claws, Wolverine takes a beating. Heals from the beating and waits for Khan to get tired, then knocks him out.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not sure we really know just how strong Blob is compared to Khan. Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he's stronger. Plus Khan is better trained. Blob was slow and didn't look like he knew how to throw a punch.Without his claws, Wolverine takes a beating. Heals from the beating and waits for Khan to get tired, then knocks him out.
No. Blob is stronger. He put his fist into a tank barrel and caused the tank shell to back blast into the cabin, blowing the entire thing up with casual ease. He didn't even move from the impact. He was knocking Logan clear across the boxing ring and across the room in a comical fashion despite being an out of shape slob. He was quick enough to catch Logan with several hits, despite him outfighting Sabretooth. And despite that strength and durability shown, a single elbow drop to the noggin still put him on his ass.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Didn't Blob punch a tank shell back into the tank and later knock Wolverine across the gym just by running into him?Edit: Looks like I spent to much time on the response screen
IIRC he put his hand in the tank's firing tube and stopped the shell there. It's part of his mutant powers. I'm not saying that Blob is not strong or not tough. Just that we don't know how strong Khan is exactly in comparison to blob. Blob is definitely tougher though, but Khan is faster and more skilled. An elbow drop to the head would definitely knock Khan out... IF wolverine can hit him. We saw what an unarmed Mystique can do to Wolverine.
Again, I'm not saying Khan wins this. Wolverine does win, but he only wins due to healing factor and an unfair advantage in that he has indestructible weapons whereas Khan is fighting unarmed.
Blob's mutant powers are superhuman strength and durability. Usually in the Class 90-100 range in the comics. And it's at least in the multiple tons to be able to stop a tank shell and cause it to back blast while he himself is totally unharmed, and slam Logan around like a rag doll.
We know that based on that, in comparison to Blob, Khan is a lot weaker. Probably weaker than Cap considering he doesn't have feats of knocking people 15+ feet and taking as long as he did to beat down Kirk.
Also, despite Blob's evident durability, he was not only frightened of Logan's claws, but was TKO'd by a single elbow drop to the head.(Also Logan jumped nearly 10 feet vertically to deliver the elbow which shows super strength as well) Even without his claws, Wolverine's hits are super hard due to his metal bones and his healing factor allowing his muscles to operate at a higher efficiency. And he's stronger than Kirk shown by his ability to block optic beams which punch through concrete and metal like paper, and blocking a giant robot swinging a sword down at him. He'll have Khan seeing stars with every hit.
Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC he put his hand in the tank's firing tube and stopped the shell there. It's part of his mutant powers. I'm not saying that Blob is not strong or not tough. Just that we don't know how strong Khan is exactly in comparison to blob. Blob is definitely tougher though, but Khan is faster and more skilled. An elbow drop to the head would definitely knock Khan out... IF wolverine can hit him. We saw what an unarmed Mystique can do to Wolverine.Again, I'm not saying Khan wins this. Wolverine does win, but he only wins due to healing factor and an unfair advantage in that he has indestructible weapons whereas Khan is fighting unarmed.
Can Khan send someone flying across a gym just by running into them?
YouTube video It's around the 32 second mark
Originally posted by KingD19
Blob's mutant powers are superhuman strength and durability. Usually in the Class 90-100 range in the comics. And it's at least in the multiple tons to be able to stop a tank shell and cause it to back blast while he himself is totally unharmed, and slam Logan around like a rag doll.We know that based on that, in comparison to Blob, Khan is a lot weaker. Probably weaker than Cap considering he doesn't have feats of knocking people 15+ feet and taking as long as he did to beat down Kirk.
Also, despite Blob's evident durability, he was not only frightened of Logan's claws, but was TKO'd by a single elbow drop to the head.(Also Logan jumped nearly 10 feet vertically to deliver the elbow which shows super strength as well) Even without his claws, Wolverine's hits are super hard due to his metal bones and his healing factor allowing his muscles to operate at a higher efficiency. And he's stronger than Kirk shown by his ability to block optic beams which punch through concrete and metal like paper, and blocking a giant robot swinging a sword down at him. He'll have Khan seeing stars with every hit.
The elbow was also after the Blob hurt himself by headbutting Logan.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Can Khan send someone flying across a gym just by running into them?YouTube video It's around the 32 second mark
Khan sent someone flying across the room with a punch, and a punch doesn't have quite the same momentum as bulldozing someone with your whole body.
Comicbook blob is in the 100 ton class. Not sure how strong he is in the movie.
Fact is, Khan is still stronger than Wolverine. And just about anyone who has decent h2h skills have beat up Wolverine, with his adamantium skeleton and HF the only things that enable him to win.
Wolverine has had difficulty beating people like Mystique and Gambit in h2h. He'll have a harder time beating Khan especially if he doesn't utilize his claws.
Blob although strong is extremely slow and didn't showcase any decent h2h skill.