Pre Nu52 Superman vs Earth 2 Superman

Started by Golgo134 pages

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed.

He will lose but he will give Earth 2 a fight.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
This is Pre-Flashpoint Superman. Not New 52.

facepalm

ahah, forgot the Pre. 😮

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, but that's contrasted by being hurt by a nuke (Even after Alan Scott and Wonder Woman contained it.)

I'm not nearly as versed on Earth 2 Superman as I am on Earth 1, but I don't remember too many feats that come close to the moon tossing one, making it a possible outlier..


That was a young Kal-L. His best feat was fighting Earth-1 Superman to a double KO which is vastly superior to tossing moons.

Earth 2 Superman

Originally posted by iceman24567
Earth 2 Superman
What makes you think so ?

We're talking galaxy-sneeze, lose to a chimp, power level all over the place Supes, right? Depends entirely on which feats you decide to choose. Pre-original-Crisis Supes still has the most logic-defying feats though, even by comic standards.

Originally posted by Digi
We're talking galaxy-sneeze, lose to a chimp, power level all over the place Supes, right? Depends entirely on which feats you decide to choose. Pre-original-Crisis Supes still has the most logic-defying feats though, even by comic standards.
Do you happen to have scans of losing to a chimp ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you happen to have scans of losing to a chimp ?

Not personally. It was something I saw years ago on KMC in a thread about PC Supes. Even minus that, the fluctuations in power were pretty intense, even by overpowered comic character standards. He was the Superman from WAYYY back, when writers cared less for continuity and coherence and such. It's almost hard to compare him to anything more current because of that.

Originally posted by Digi
Not personally. It was something I saw years ago on KMC in a thread about PC Supes.
Its a great weapon only someone as responsible as myself could wield when appropriate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its a great weapon only someone as responsible as myself could wield when appropriate.

Huh? If we're still talking about the same thing, I used it as a throwaway example, making a larger point. Current forum sensibilities don't apply easily to older characters.

Originally posted by Digi
Huh? If we're still talking about the same thing, I used it as a throwaway example, making a larger point. Current forum sensibilities don't apply easily to older characters.
I got your point that these characters were all over the map but to make the galaxy sneezing feats level out a chimp counter would be quite effective.

I myself tend to not debate based off of feats as the bulk of my evidence anyways.

Some amusing examples of my point:
http://blog.paxholley.net/2011/07/04/1-of-supermans-most-absurd-pre-crisis-super-powers/

Do we count those in PC Supes threads? Or do we conveniently ignore them because they don't fit our model for the character, or hold up to the rigors of forum scrutiny?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I got your point that these characters were all over the map but to make the galaxy sneezing feats level out a chimp counter would be quite effective.

I myself tend to not debate based off of feats as the bulk of my evidence anyways.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Digi
We're talking galaxy-sneeze, lose to a chimp, power level all over the place Supes, right? Depends entirely on which feats you decide to choose. Pre-original-Crisis Supes still has the most logic-defying feats though, even by comic standards.

That chimp was Titano who radiated kryptonite. Superman wasn't that variable. Most of his low showings lack context.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That chimp was Titano who radiated kryptonite. Superman wasn't that variable. Most of his low showings lack context.
Issue number ?

His strength was all over the place. At one point he can pull planets, then we have this...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/PreCrisisStrength_zps75cf56a6.png.html

Originally posted by carver9
His strength was all over the place. At one point he can pull planets, then we have this...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/PreCrisisStrength_zps75cf56a6.png.html

yes, they were, then you have the average showing which is near sky father level

Originally posted by carver9
His strength was all over the place. At one point he can pull planets, then we have this...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/PreCrisisStrength_zps75cf56a6.png.html

Still better than a getting strangled by a snake.

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LOL...whateva Zack.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
yes, they were, then you have the average showing which is near sky father level

Whats his average showings?

Originally posted by Digi
We're talking galaxy-sneeze, lose to a chimp, power level all over the place Supes, right? Depends entirely on which feats you decide to choose. Pre-original-Crisis Supes still has the most logic-defying feats though, even by comic standards.

Depends on if you think Earth 2 Superman is Golden Age Superman or not.

There's some good arguments for why Earth 2 Supes and Golden Age/Original can't be the same character, due to history discrepancies and some other differences. (Earth 2 Supes never had Lex Luthor, for example,. but Alexi Luthor, while the Lex Luthor we know was born in the golden age era.).