Battle of the Franchises

Originally posted by NemeBro
Droidekas are droids.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see vampires fly off screen out of the area unable to keep up. We see them run off in the distance far faster as well. Bullets are faster.

I cited the most powerful Jedi without any distractions being tagged against a single opponent. Russell is far faster, stronger, and ruthless enough to kill them before precog says duck.

And I cited the second fastest vampire getting tagged but a net 😐

Originally posted by BloodRain
..the other ones.. you knew what I meant >__>

Yeah their fastest movement feats can likely reach supersonic, though most of the time these movements like those youre talking about are not at this speed.

And I cited the second fastest vampire getting tagged but a net 😐

No, we see them travel farther distances at greater speeds.

Bill and Eric vs the net-gun. (btw how does Bills speed measure up to Eric's? I know he's slower but he seems to be able to keep up)

Can you tell me, for instance, when a vamp ran 600 ft in less than half a second?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Bill and Eric vs the net-gun. (btw how does Bills speed measure up to Eric's? I know he's slower but he seems to be able to keep up)

Can you tell me, for instance, when a vamp ran 600 ft in less than half a second?

Flew away farther in the series.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Older you are stronger and faster you are. They have to make it exciting. Bill is nothing to Eric in a serious fight.

Flew away farther in the series.

When? The only moments coming to mind are the first flight with Eric (Not fast) and Russ hovering above a town.

Originally posted by BloodRain
I know that, I was asking to what degree. Because I don't recall the speed difference being that different between them.

When? The only moments coming to mind are the first flight with Eric (Not fast) and Russ hovering above a town.

We just saw Eric fly away in crazy fashion from the Governor's men.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you knew that then why ask.

We just saw Eric fly away in crazy fashion from the Governor's men.

Mind narrowing it down to an episode?

Originally posted by BloodRain
'Because I don't recall the speed difference being that different between them.' Has Bill been completely unable to track Eric's speed before?

Mind narrowing it down to an episode?

Are you up to date ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You agreed that he is faster. Does not matter as you agree.

Are you up to date ?

Up to ol' Will downing the divine blood, yes.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Of course I agree with my own words.. now answer the question.

Up to ol' Will downing the divine blood, yes.

Most current episode towards the end we see Eric dart or fly away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No need as you agree.

Most current episode towards the end we see Eric dart or fly away.

Will chick it out.

Originally posted by BloodRain
My agreeing was that Bill can keep up with Eric.. so you're agreeing with that?

Will chick it out.

It's not even close but I'm sure you'll deny it like you always do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You agreed older vampires are stronger and faster.

It's not even close but I'm sure you'll deny it like you always do.

Relax. I'm going through an episode to do your homework, be thankful. And of course I'll deny this feat, do you know why? Because when I ask you to show me a Vampire moving hundreds of feet in a split second, to show me supersonic movement, you referred me to Eric flying up less than 20ft. A flight that every human around was clearly able to follow.

Next time you make a True Blood thread use bigger threats, like Bill. The three here would struggle with most bullet timers with combat powers. Williams tier is where things get exciting.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The question was not about age=speed or if Eric was faster, it was about to what degree and whether Bill could keep track of it. If you can't give an answer I'll gladly take that as Bill being able to.

Relax. I'm going through an episode to do your homework, be thankful. And of course I'll deny this feat, do you know why? Because when I ask you to show me a Vampire moving hundreds of feet in a split second, to show me supersonic movement, you referred me to Eric flying up less than 20ft. A flight that every human around was clearly able to follow.

I don't care if you see it or not. Faster than laser bolts which we can follow with our eyes.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Next time you make a True Blood thread use bigger threats, like Bill. The three here would struggle with most bullet timers with combat powers. Williams tier is where things get exciting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You already agreed Hes faster and stronger.

I don't care if you see it or not. Faster than laser bolts which we can follow with our eyes.

Basically you can't give the feat sp will just go defensive about another subject? Its not my fault you're having trouble pegging supersonic movement. I'm mean seriously? An instance where humans keep track?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need Bill here. Russell is all that is needed p. we don't know how or what can kill Billith at this point.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And with that failure I settle the point that while faster, Eric's speed can still be tracked by Bill. Excellent.

Basically you can't give the feat sp will just go defensive about another subject? Its not my fault you're having trouble pegging supersonic movement. I'm mean seriously? An instance where humans keep track? Hence the 'next time', as is other threads and when more light is shone on Bill, so to speak.
TB's best trait is their speed, so matched up against a character who's physically equal the skills and powers come into play. No one but Bill will do well in that situation, where Russ becomes outclassed.

I did give you the feat. No, it is clear the speed of these vampires is far faster than these weak laser blasts. I'm saying I can keep track of the laser blasts not the speed of the vamps.

Why is Russell being outclassed when his strength is pretty amazing again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you agreed Bill is slower and less powerful than Eric is.
I did give you the feat. No, it is clear the speed of these vampires is far faster than these weak laser blasts. I'm saying I can keep track of the laser blasts not the speed of the vamps.

Why is Russell being outclassed when his strength is pretty amazing again.

Showing me a feat obviously below supersonic to which humans keep track? See that 'I can' is the main issue here. You, the viewer, are able to keep up. Once again in some things I can clearly see a bullet in flight,, does this mean that fictions bullets are not all that fast?

Because lots of characters with supersonic speed tend to have a few tons of strength, like Russ, or way better abilities. At least decent characters do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't how it it is portrayed in the films.

SW has an expanded universe far extending the films. By only examining the films, you're stuck with minimal information. You would have to study everything beyond that to make a more sufficient conclusion.