Epic Filibuster - Anti-Abortion Stalling

Started by Bardock423 pages

Yeah, they did do that. Pretty ****ed up.

Wow. I'm reading the Something Awful thread on this and they did it in plain sight, after the date had already been released to the public. Holy shit. That is literally fraud.

And from what I can see thats not the only law they broke. They seem to have straight up ignored legal procedure as it suited them towards the end.

They did. They broke the law on live feed camera to try and pass this bill, and then went in and altered timestamps to make it seem legit. The Lt. Governor (I don't know his name) conceded that the vote was after midnight and the bill was dead, though.

However apparently Perry is trying to bring another special session to attempt to force it through...

Oh, and of course, no news outlets in the US were really following this at all. Twitter has more on top of things than the actual media.

They've done so much illegal stuff before, what reason do they have to think that they can't do it now?

Originally posted by Cyner
They've done so much illegal stuff before, what reason do they have to think that they can't do it now?

Well they were on camera and in front of their political opponents . . .

Originally posted by Peach
Oh, and of course, no news outlets in the US were really following this at all. Twitter has more on top of things than the actual media.

I take your point, but TYT has covered this

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well they were on camera and in front of their political opponents . . .

Well the 2000 election was pretty important and well monitored, so were the 2012 primaries, and they cheated there. Too bad there weren't any camera's put directly on them at these events though. They'll probably still get away with it.

in both of those cases, neither Gore or Paul pursued legal action

EDIT: iirc in 2000 Gore conceded the election

yup, hopefully someone in texas will be much more aggressive in keeping them in check.

maybe, it might work better as leverage for the immediate future though; if the Repubs try to reintroduce the legislation, then they file a lawsuit.

As it stands, no need to spike the ball and risk looking vindictive.

I don't see how they'd look vindictive. The Repubs broke the law and sidestepped legal procedure many times yesterday. Seeking to get them the **** away from being able to repeat their actions is clearly the right thing to do.

And it's already being reintroduced.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/26/2223441/perry-calls-second-special-session/

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't see how they'd look vindictive. The Repubs broke the law and sidestepped legal procedure many times yesterday. Seeking to get them the **** away from being able to repeat their actions is clearly the right thing to do.

you also don't see how that statement seems vindictive either, eh?

Originally posted by Peach
And it's already being reintroduced.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/26/2223441/perry-calls-second-special-session/

/facepalm

Originally posted by Oliver North
you also don't see how that statement seems vindictive either, eh?

No. More concerned over how people engaging so blatantly in misconduct can continue serving in a legal capacity.

I mean, am I making a mountain out of a molehill here? From what I can tell they broke the law in front of thousands of people to try to falsely pass a bill. How is that not instant legal action?

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. More concerned over how people engaging so blatantly in misconduct can continue serving in a legal capacity.

I mean, am I making a mountain out of a molehill here? From what I can tell they broke the law in front of thousands of people. How is that not instant legal action?

its more the pragmatics of how such a case would go. It would be incredibly divisive, expensive, polarizing, etc. At the end of the day, if the bill was killed, even with some maleficence on the other side, it would probably be best laid to rest.

Given they reintroduced the bill, I'd say go for it

Originally posted by Peach
And it's already being reintroduced.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/26/2223441/perry-calls-second-special-session/

Well, obviously, it was just a filibuster. I don't get why people (on twitter) thought that this meant the bill was done...

Was still a good thing though.

The legislative session is supposed to be over, and Perry is calling another special session simply to try and pass this...despite the fact that it's been killed once in special session (which exist solely so bills can try and be pushed through with minimal debate), and despite the fact that the majority of the people in Texas don't want to see it passed. I don't have the link to the article anymore, but something like 80% of people in this state either oppose it or think it's unnecessary.

It's a dick move on top of every other dick move pulled recently.

Hence why its so unsurprising. This is the Republican part after all.

Originally posted by Peach
I don't have the link to the article anymore, but something like 80% of people in this state either oppose it or think it's unnecessary.

80% of Texans are against restrictions on abortion?

was the poll done in Austin?

Maybe Texans have been infected by apathy, and the poll counts people who don't care along with those opposed.