Magneto Vs A Celestial*

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MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

Magneto Vs A Celestial*

Magneto discovers a random nameless Celestial standing in the Savage Land. The Celestial is 5000 ft tall and seemingly dormant as it is communing with other Celestials via hyperspace. Can Magneto incapacitate the Celestial before it becomes active? If not, can Magneto do enough damage so that when the Celestial does become active he can still press his advantage.

For this thread Magneto has 10 minutes to cut loose on the Celestial before it notices his presence and retaliates.

Discuss.

WhiteWitchKing Senior Member

No. Magneto might die because the Celestial's body auto blast him.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

What if Mags creates space-bullets(similar to the one Kitty was trapped in) out of the earth's supply of adamantium, then accelerates them to near-light speeds before dropping them on the Celestial's dome-piece..?

yaadaveyaa Senior Member

if he gets access to the materials he needs he could do some real damage i dont think he can take it down tho

Cogito Senior Member

If Magneto can make a dent it'd really demonstrate how far Celestials have fallen

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

They're multiversal beings. Even if he decapitates one of their aspects there's an infinite number more out there. If the Celestial cared about killing Magneto, he'd be vaporized in an instant.

And phuckin' Marvel is all over the place with the Celestials anyway. At this point, the best thing to do is just kill them all off, wait a few years and reboot them.

Mr.SunKing Senior Member

Re: Magneto Vs A Celestial*

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Magneto discovers a random nameless Celestial standing in the Savage Land. The Celestial is 5000 ft tall and seemingly dormant as it is communing with other Celestials via hyperspace. Can Magneto incapacitate the Celestial before it becomes active? If not, can Magneto do enough damage so that when the Celestial does become active he can still press his advantage.

For this thread Magneto has 10 minutes to cut loose on the Celestial before it notices his presence and retaliates.

Discuss.


true, but this literally made me LOL.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Galan007
What if Mags creates space-bullets(similar to the one Kitty was trapped in) out of the earth's supply of adamantium, then accelerates them to near-light speeds before dropping them on the Celestial's dome-piece..?

Unless you're backhandedly implying that Magneto can channel some sort of weakness exploitation in these gargantuan "space-bullets" like Sue's forcefields or Jarnbjorn's enchantment, then I simply don't see how he'll be able to inflict sufficient damage to kill or permanently incapacitate the Celestial.

Anyways, for the purposes of this thread, Magneto can indeed manipulate the armor of an immobile Celestial that's unaware of what's happening to itself. And yes, I am serious when I say that, because it's happened on-panel with one of the most powerful Celestials known in canon. I am talking to you, Cogito. Celestials haven't "fallen" anywhere, it's just that Marvel editorial can simply not decide where they fall in the cosmological hierarchy. They go from getting killed by random entropy guns and enchanted axes in some particular comics to staggering Galactus-level universal reality warpers and being multiversal entities in other comics.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Unless you're backhandedly implying that Magneto can channel some sort of weakness exploitation in these gargantuan "space-bullets" like Sue's forcefields or Jarnbjorn's enchantment, then I simply don't see how he'll be able to inflict sufficient damage to kill or permanently incapacitate the Celestial.
What's with you?

I posed a simple/up-front question in plain English. I wasn't "backhandedly implying" anything. Just wondering if a giant space-bullet traveling at c could cause any damage to a no-name Celestial. That is literally all I asked. srsly

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
They're multiversal beings. Even if he decapitates one of their aspects there's an infinite number more out there.

You're still confusing Pak's portrayal, aren't you? The Celestials don't have any individual aspects, such that all the Arishems of parallel universes are merely bits and pieces of one true Arishem.

No, that's not what that scan says. Arishem, Tiamut, Ziran, Tefral, Nezzar, Ashema etc. all ARE the aspects one true Celestial that is linked across the multiverse.

Let me explain it this way: imagine that you're Earth-616 zopzop. Naturally you would have a counterpart in Earth-12495, who, for the purposes of this example, shall be called flopflop. That's what the Celestials are to each other, according to Pak. Tiamut is like the alternate reality counterpart of Ziran, and all Celestials represent one single original Celestial that exists across the multiverse. Got it now?

Merlyn Order Of...

Originally posted by Galan007
What's with you?

I posed a simple/up-front question in plain English. I wasn't "backhandedly implying" anything. Just wondering if a giant space-bullet traveling at c could cause any damage to a no-name Celestial. That is literally all I asked. srsly

If a hammer strike from Thor can damage a Celestial, then of course a few thousand pound(?) adamantium bullet moving at light speed could damage one. To what extent is hard to say though.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Galan007
What's with you?

I posed a simple/up-front question in plain English. I wasn't "backhandedly implying" anything. Just wondering if a giant space-bullet traveling at c could cause any damage to a no-name Celestial. That is literally all I asked. srsly


I swear on my dead great-great...-great-grandfather's grave, there was no hostility intended in that post.

I asked an honest-to-god(that I don't believe in) question. No need to get defensive, duder.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Tiamut is like the alternate reality counterpart of Ziran, and all Celestials represent one single original Celestial that exists across the multiverse. Got it now?

Yes, the Celestials are multiversal. I get it. Next......

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, the Celestials are multiversal. I get it. Next......

Which means that Tiamut getting killed is Tiamut getting killed. Tiamut doesn't automatically remain alive, simply because he's the analogue of an alternate reality counterpart for other Celestials.

If someone kills Earht-616 zopzop while Earth-12495 flopflop remains alive, then that doesn't mean that Earth-616 zopzop is also still alive. See where I am getting at?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Which means that Tiamut getting killed is Tiamut getting killed. Tiamut doesn't automatically remain alive, simply because he's the analogue of an alternate reality counterpart for other Celestials.

If someone kills Earht-616 zopzop while Earth-12495 flopflop remains alive, then that doesn't mean that Earth-616 zopzop is also still alive. See where I am getting at?


But he's not dead because he's merely a part of a greater whole. There really is no Tiamut or Ziran or whatever. They are merely aspects of a greater being.

Celestials are multiversal.

carver9 Senior Member

I guess people forgot about Magneto recent showing against a Celestial?

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Where he acted as a nervous system for it or whatever?

carver9 Senior Member

When he forcefully put one back together with ease.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Merlyn
If a hammer strike from Thor can damage a Celestial, then of course a few thousand pound(?) adamantium bullet moving at light speed could damage one. To what extent is hard to say though.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I swear on my dead great-great...-great-grandfather's grave, there was no hostility intended in that post.

I asked an honest-to-god(that I don't believe in) question. No need to get defensive, duder.

😂 I believe you, then.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by carver9
When he forcefully put one back together with ease.

That Celestial was in Mr Sinister's control, and Mr Sinister himself was actively warping reality in some other place. Magneto put back a Celestial that didn't even know what Magneto was doing.