More police violence. *GRAPHIC WARNING*

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More police violence. *GRAPHIC WARNING*

Police handcuff man for filming them; then shoot his dog.

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To protect and serve.

If a few pigs can do this to a dog, they'll do it to a person. Cops need to be held to a higher standard. These three sociopaths need to be kept out of positions of authority and away from weapons (well, that's true of all sociopaths). Confiscate all their money and property and toss em into a private prison for 20 years. It's what they deserve. I've said that the punishment for police brutality should be death by firing squad, killing an animal that was guarding his owner who the pigs illegally started shit with in the first place need a harsh and proportional punishment.

The guy was scared the dog was going to attack them. It looked like it was trying to bite his hand before he shot it. He wasn't a sociopath, he clearly just panicked.

maybe they thought it was Dorner's ghost.......... FFS.

Maybe they should try firing in the air or better yet, not provoke a dog by illegally arresting and detaining the owner. It's California. Eavesdropping laws do not apply to police activity as long as you don't interfere with the police.
This just another example of an epidemic of police shooting animals, specifically pets and strays for kicks. In my state a couple of pigs are facing possible poaching charges for purposely provoking and then shooting wild elk with their sidearms...in residential neighborhoods. I mean if you're a officer of the public trust, once you start torturing and murdering animals for fun or just on a whim as a first response, isn't it time to throw you in an asylum and keep you partially sedated for the rest of your life before you start dressing up like a clown and burying kids in your crawlspace or start getting horny from derailing passenger trains?

Woah boy. Jello forgot to take his meds again.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Maybe they should try firing in the air or better yet, not provoke a dog by illegally arresting and detaining the owner. It's California. Eavesdropping laws do not apply to police activity as long as you don't interfere with the police.
This just another example of an epidemic of police shooting animals, specifically pets and strays for kicks. In my state a couple of pigs are facing possible poaching charges for purposely provoking and then shooting wild elk with their sidearms...in residential neighborhoods. I mean if you're a officer of the public trust, once you start torturing and murdering animals for fun or just on a whim as a first response, isn't it time to throw you in an asylum and keep you partially sedated for the rest of your life before you start dressing up like a clown and burying kids in your crawlspace or start getting horny from derailing passenger trains?
Doesn't take much to get you going, huh?

If you give someone a weapon and the power to enforce the law, the power of life and death over other people, they have to be a model for their society and in holding them up to that standard, their punishment for using their position to violate the law should be far more severe than for a typical citizen. I would extend this to anyone the public entrusts with a deadly weapon and anyone appointed or elected to a public office.

What wrong with that?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
If a few pigs can do this to a dog, they'll do it to a person.
Dogs = people ey?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Dogs = people ey?

Serial Killers and other violent Sociopaths and Psychopaths often start with torturing and abusing animals. That's one of those signs that you're seriously ****ed up and a potential threat. Rape and murder are usually about power and control over life and death as well as sadism. A lot of these monsters start with having power over fido and then make their way up the evolutionary ladder.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Serial Killers and other violent Sociopaths and Psychopaths often start with torturing and abusing animals.
So you are comparing a cop panicking and shooting a dog that was acting aggressively to a sociopathic budding serial killer who tortures harmless animals ey?

Originally posted by NemeBro
So you are comparing a cop panicking and shooting a dog that was acting aggressively to a sociopathic budding serial killer who tortures harmless animals ey?
They're practically the same thing! We can judge this man's personality and psyche totally and accurately with just one shaking phone clip. Modern psychoanalysis at its f*cking finest!

And before people start basing conclusions off of falsehoods, he was not arrested for filming. The music from his car was so loud that the police- conducting an armed response operation- couldn't hear each other properly. He was asked to turn the music down and apparently refused.

Whether that was worth cuffing him on the spot is another matter, but it was nothing to do with filming.

If only there was a device made for incapacitating instead of killing, perhaps something that shoots electricity instead of bullets, and if only police were issued these devices, and police officers trained to react appropriately in situation. However, such a device surely doesn't exist.

I don't think it matters what these corrupt police officers claimed they arrested him for, for one we know the music wasn't so loud, as we have a camera a mere 4 meters from the car and can clearly hear people talk as well as an animal being brutally murdered.

This man, Jeffrey Salmon, has a history of police brutality, so much so that the police department had to settle for 1 million dollars, because of his and other officers actions. He is not fit for police duty, there is no doubt in my mind (and there shouldn't be in anyone else's), that he needs to stop being a cop (and additionally he should face jail time for animal abuse and abuse of power, but we don't live in a world where that would ever happen).

Even if this was the only issue with the man (and, again, it isn't) , he shouldn't be a police officer, obviously unfit for the position.

Whoa whoa whoa, don't jump to conclusions there on the noise. It's one thing to hear people right next to you, another to co-ordinate squads at distance where one thing being misheard can cause a crisis. Those police were seriously armed; that's a kind of situation that needs a properly secure environment and it's absolutely appropriate that you get people to shut off loud music.

Calling them 'corrupt' based on what we have here is clear hyperbole also. This may be an error, it may be unprofessional, it may be incompetent, but 'corrupt' is way off.

And luckily, yes, we don't live in a world stupid enough to jail a cop for that.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Whoa whoa whoa, don't jump to conclusions there on the noise. It's one thing to hear people right next to you, another to co-ordinate squads at distance where one thing being misheard can cause a crisis. Those police were seriously armed; that's a kind of situation that needs a properly secure environment and it's absolutely appropriate that you get people to shut off loud music.

Calling them 'corrupt' based on what we have here is clear hyperbole also. This may be an error, it may be unprofessional, it may be incompetent, but 'corrupt' is way off.

And luckily, yes, we don't live in a world stupid enough to jail a cop for that.

The people were closer to the car than the police were that were entering the house. I would point out the officers entered the house a good 2 minutes before those two cops came to arrest the man. Even than the two cops that arrested him and shot the dog didn't go straight for him. First they walked to the sidewalk and then walked the other way from the guy. It wasn't until he started talking trash to those two cops that they came over to arrest him.

I feel if the music from his car was interfering with their communication that badly the cops would have gone straight to arrest him before any of them had entered the area they were going after.

As it stands it seems pretty clear to me that they simply tried to make an example out of him or were tired of his antics and decided to do something about it.

Cops SHOULD be more professional about that kind of situation. Also it wasn't like the dog jumped out of the car all of a sudden and ran straight towards the officer. The dog was clearly sticking it's head out of the open window barking and even when it got out it stood it's ground barking for a good time before it did anything.

The fact the cop's first response in that situation was to ready and use lethal force shows imo an ineptness at their job. They had other options, had time to think of other options and opted for the worse way of dealing with what was happening.

You can argue all you want about the legality of arresting the black dude, but the shooting of the dog is a completely separate issue from the false arrest. Shooting a dog that is attacking you is not "animal cruelty". wtf?

Why the animal is attacking you doesn't matter- if you brought the attack upon yourself, it doesn't matter. Defending yourself from an aggressive animal is, straight up, not animal abuse in any way, shape or form.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
You can argue all you want about the legality of arresting the black dude, but the shooting of the dog is a completely separate issue from the false arrest. Shooting a dog that is attacking you is not "animal cruelty". wtf?

Why the animal is attacking you doesn't matter- if you brought the attack upon yourself, it doesn't matter. Defending yourself from an aggressive animal is, straight up, not animal abuse in any way, shape or form.

If you're the one provoking the animal and the animal does what it's supposed to do and you hurt it then it is your fault the animal got hurt.

Also I think the general sentiment is that it partially abuse as well because the cop should have used another means to subdue the dog. Defending yourself against an something attacking you is a natural reaction but the cops should have been trained enough to not resort to such poor decisions like lethal force in that particular situation as they had other options and the time think about them and use them.

Originally posted by Newjak
If you're the one provoking the animal and the animal does what it's supposed to do and you hurt it then it is your fault the animal got hurt.

"It's your fault" =\= committing animal abuse. I can go up to someones window and blow raspberries at a dog all ****ing day long. If he goes apeshit and jumps through the window and attacks me, I'm well within my rights to break its ****ing neck.

Furthermore, the dog was locked up in a car (or so they thought), no one was counting on the dog jumping out of the window.

Like, people need to seriously think this through. It's apparently "animal abuse" because the police falsely arrested somebody. Errrrr, so you're saying that if the black guy had been selling crack on the corner with his dog on a leash, and then the police arrested him, it wouldn't be animal abuse if the dog slipped its leash and the cops ended up shooting it? Come on.

This is why you need to separate the incidences in your mind. False arrest does not turn killing an animal into abuse. I mean shit, animal abuse doesn't even mean "unlawful killing of animals", like its murder or some shit, otherwise you could go to jail for running a cat over. Animal abuse is specifically in regards to inflicting suffering on an animal or torturing it. Freaking out and shooting a dog, who presumably died seconds later, can not count as animal abuse.