Rulk & Juggernaut vs Lobo & Orion

Originally posted by DTM
Sorry, but no, least not to me. Classic Juggernaut would wreck Lobo.

How would Lobo get through the force field?

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
lobo has managed to go toe to toe with superman an knock him out, that puts him, imo, on par or above cain

Superman isn't like a flesh and blood adamantium Ultron, though.

He's not someone you can really beat down with physical force, due to the mystical nature of his durability.

Originally posted by KingD19
How would Lobo get through the force field?

And is current Juggy still depowered or is he back to whatever passes for normal ....for him.

You can't outsmart a forcefield bud. Lobo's not getting through it.

And he got his powers back(at what level we don't know) at the end of Thunderbolts before they switched to the red team. They opened a portal to an alternate universe where Cain Marko died before he became Juggernaut. So Cytorrak sensed his chosen one and gave him his powers back.

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman isn't like a flesh and blood adamantium Ultron, though.

He's not someone you can really beat down with physical force, due to the mystical nature of his durability.

Originally posted by KingD19
You can't outsmart a forcefield bud. Lobo's not getting through it.

And he got his powers back(at what level we don't know) at the end of Thunderbolts before they switched to the red team. They opened a portal to an alternate universe where Cain Marko died before he became Juggernaut. So Cytorrak sensed his chosen one and gave him his powers back.

Yeah. And this is why I don't like Juggy. His schtick is to one trick uber pony.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
are you saying you cant beat superman down😖

I'm saying Juggernaut can't be beaten down. Lobo beating down Superman doesn't say anything to put him over Cain, because Lobo would not be able to beat Cain down. True invulnerability is in his powerset. You can't beat him down with brute force, any more then you could beat down The General or Kitty Pryde in a phased state.

He's not trying to go after Cytorrak. He's fighting Cain, who he can't beat.

And Cytorrak is pretty powerful. He's been described as the strongest of the Octessence, banished 2/5 of the Phoenix Force from his realm with a whim. Kept 2/4 of the Phoenix Force as his exemplar against his will, and even the Vishanti don't want problems with him.

So then Juggernaut should be banned from KMC VS forum as being a pure spite character then?

I agree.

Well, Juggernaut can be beaten. He just can't be KOed..

A thread requiring a KO would certainly be spite, or at best a stalemate..

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So then Juggernaut should be banned from KMC VS forum as being a pure spite character then?

I agree. [/B]

Can't we say the same for Lobo? Since he's literally not allowed to die, can heal nearly instantly from any other injuries, and fights people like Superman all the time?

And what CDTM said about Classic Juggs is correct. Lobo and Orion could try and BFR him, which works, or if they could get his helmet off maybe Mother Box could use Telepathy if it has that. But they won't be beating him through physical means.

Not really. Because LOBO can be a part of a team with out having to be DEPOWERED to be made an interesting part of it unlike Juggy. LOBO can loose a fight and die with out BFRing. It has happened.

Definately so, Lobo is much easier to defeat physically than Juggernaut, whereas Juggernaut is much easier to beat mentally thna Lobo. Here in this case, its all physical, so Juggernaut definately has a big advantage.

Yes. So lets ban Juggernaut from threads.

Well, Juggs isnt undefeatable, hes just undefeatable for a character like Lobo.