HoT. No feats? Nice joke. Work on your delivery though. I could swear you were serious. estahuh
Originally posted by Based
Dooku. I don't think the HoT has any legendary lightsaber feats to contend with Dooku. Or feats at all...He/she may have beaten some hyped opponents but aside from that nothing much.
HoT will destroy Dooku comfortably; he have subdued real master swordsmen (with epic accomplishments) and "elite" level adversaries (among the most powerful in entire mythos).
Educate yourself from the information provided in the link posted by member Neph.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Dooku has defeated master swordsmen and elite adversaries as well Legend. Constantly underselling Dooku does you no favors here.
Which master swordsmen Dooku have defeated? Obi-Wan? Well, Dooku defeated him with his Force powers; same story with Bulq. In martial aspects of combat, Dooku runs in to trouble in his attempt to outduel another master swordsman; he foolishly attempted this move against Anakin and results are apparent.
HoT have defeated master swordsmen who have defeated other master swordsmen and/or powerful individuals; the bar has been set right too high. Involvement of Force powers cannot be ruled out but the master swordsmen HoT encountered were very powerful and learned in ways of the Force as well. So?
Now in a contest of Force powers, if the likes of Opress are giving you trouble, then you got to do some homework.
HoT struck down "Voice of the Emperor" in a duel; circumstantial but still a phenomenal accomplishment. It is like contending with Abeloth and making it out alive. Force power wise, HoT doesn't even needs to gesture to perform a big feat.
Clearly, Dooku is outgunned and outmatched here.
You are underselling him. Dooku is among the best swordsman in all of Star Wars and as an all-round combatant he's extremely skilled and dangerous.
Don't make me argue against the HoT here. I've agreed that he wins, but your constant unwillingness to give Dooku the credit he deserves is tiring. When you can exhaust Yoda in battle, you're no chump.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You are underselling him. Dooku is among the best swordsman in all of Star Wars and as an all-round combatant he's extremely skilled and dangerous.
Their are lot of variables to consider; age, strength, stamina, skill, raw power and vice versa. Dooku's blade-work is very elegant and skillful but if we are considering his Sith Lord incarnation then he is aged and vulnerable in the context of getting overwhelmed by more powerful individuals who also happen to be master swordsmen and can relatively land more powerful and forceful blows.
HoT is also a master swordsman with incredible accomplishments. He have defeated relatively more impressive foes then Dooku so holistic analysis favors the former over the latter.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Don't make me argue against the HoT here. I've agreed that he wins, but your constant unwillingness to give Dooku the credit he deserves is tiring. When you can exhaust Yoda in battle, you're no chump.
Dooku have fought Yoda twice and chose to fled in both cases. In addition, Dooku couldn't tire out Yoda in the second encounter. Why is this?
In the first encounter, Dooku played smart and tested Yoda's resolve and patience. Yoda being unwilling to attack Dooku with his Force powers head-on, chose to subdue him through methods which were more exhausting (expert level Ataru dueling) and ended-up getting played by Dooku's dark choices. The environment was such that Dooku found means to distract Yoda and escape. Expert level Ataru dueling + Crane lifting feat = exhaustion from bad choices and getting played. On top of this, the age factor of Yoda wasn't helping him either.
In comparison to Yoda, HoT is more aggressive and combat-oriented in nature. Of-course, HoT also follows Jedi ideals but he really knows how to handle Sith.
Since you agree that HoT will beat Dooku so I don't see the reason for your argument, am I missing something?
Originally posted by Nephthys
You are underselling him. Dooku is among the best swordsman in all of Star Wars and as an all-round combatant he's extremely skilled and dangerous.Don't make me argue against the HoT here. I've agreed that he wins, but your constant unwillingness to give Dooku the credit he deserves is tiring. When you can exhaust Yoda in battle, you're no chump.
Doesn't Dark Rendezvous firmly establish Yoda to easily be Dooku's superior (I'm genuinely asking as I haven't read it and I know how these things can be blown out of proportion at times)?