Strength Ranking???

Originally posted by abhilegend
Both amped subconsciously and were both an idiot at that point. Which was after he was amped too long. His fight with thanos was just after he received the gem.

Champion is a jobber without the gem. Surfer was matching him physically after he received a huge amp by those mystical gauntlets and then Drax oneshotted him. She hulk also pushed his shit in without gem. The fact that Thanos was not able to beat him physically when he was barely tapping the gem isn't a positive showing for the mad titan.

There's a difference because Thor was said to get stronger by the second, and stated that he could eventually threaten the universe. Drax didn't amp himself anywhere near as much as Thor did subconsciously. Mainly because Drax wasn't the one going insane and bloodlusted.

lol you realize you just supported my point? Champion without the gem were beaten by a lot of people, like you named. Yet, when he had the PG (and barely tapping into it) even Thanos couldn't beat him physically. It just proves the PG is a huge amp, and makes Thanos stalemating an insane PG Thor even more impressive.

Originally posted by vince_slice
There's a difference because Thor was said to get stronger by the second, and stated that he could eventually threaten the universe. Drax didn't amp himself anywhere near as much as Thor did subconsciously. Mainly because Drax wasn't the one going insane and bloodlusted.

lol you realize you just supported my point? Champion without the gem were beaten by a lot of people, like you named. Yet, when he had the PG (and barely tapping into it) even Thanos couldn't beat him physically. It just proves the PG is a huge amp, and makes Thanos stalemating an insane PG Thor even more impressive.

You have already fixed Thanos to a static strength level and judging everybody else by it when its Thanos' strength who is defined by the characters he fight. Thanos is stronger than Thor and Champion but they have reached him by subconsciously tapping into power gem. If you are reaching for a direct relationship between Thor and Thanos without ambiguous amps, Masterson Thor and Merged Hulk dragged Thanos away from surfer and restrained him for a moment. That denotes Thanos around lower than twice Thor's strength.

This is a hard list to make. Tyrant was difficult due to a lack of strength showings.

Hulk
Kurse
Tyrant
Thor
Prime
Hunter Prey Doomsday/Thanos
Helspont

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is a hard list to make. Tyrant was difficult due to a lack of strength showings.

Hulk
Kurse
Tyrant
Thor
Prime
Hunter Prey Doomsday/Thanos
Helspont

Tyrant treated the heralds worse than say Kurse would

Though he used blasts as well. Meh. He also slashed through a weakened Galactus.

I'd say he's at least as strong as Kurse. Though that might have to do with Kurse's showings not being quite in line with what they should be, while still being pretty ok.

Yeah, which is why I said Tyrant is hard to rank. He owned Heralds convincingly but it was with energy attacks so I don't know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't be absurd. Both Prime and Doomsday are above Thor with the belt of strength. Prime at his weakest was laughing at Superman and Kal-L restraining him and at normal levels overpowered four superman level beings and one above. Doomsday was laughing at a hugely amped superman's attacks and broke his arm like a twig. Both are above Thor with belt of strength.

Nope.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah, which is why I said Tyrant is hard to rank. He owned Heralds convincingly but it was with energy attacks so I don't know.

I'd put him at Kurse levels tbh

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah, which is why I said Tyrant is hard to rank. He owned Heralds convincingly but it was with energy attacks so I don't know.

Nope.

wavey

Nope.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yeah, though he did use quite a few physical attacks.

I'd put him at Kurse levels tbh

Depends on how the Heralds withstood his physical attacks. Abhil said he two-shotted Surfer, which is pretty good, but not necessarily Kurse level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope.

Depends on how the Heralds withstood his physical attacks. Abhil said he two-shotted Surfer, which is pretty good, but not necessarily Kurse level.

Also I read SS v3 81 again. Tyrant used an energy blast and a punch to knock out surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your vocabulary astounds me.

Thanks I guess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanks I guess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope.

Depends on how the Heralds withstood his physical attacks. Abhil said he two-shotted Surfer, which is pretty good, but not necessarily Kurse level.

Other than his seemingly constant toying, he didn't seem to struggle with anything. Plus he was throwing Thanos around like a child at times.

Originally posted by vince_slice
There's a difference because Thor was said to get stronger by the second, and stated that he could eventually threaten the universe. Drax didn't amp himself anywhere near as much as Thor did subconsciously. Mainly because Drax wasn't the one going insane and bloodlusted.

lol you realize you just supported my point? Champion without the gem were beaten by a lot of people, like you named. Yet, when he had the PG (and barely tapping into it) even Thanos couldn't beat him physically. It just proves the PG is a huge amp, and makes Thanos stalemating an insane PG Thor even more impressive.

iirc Thor was amping only after he was trapped in the force block (in order to free himself). Before that there was really no mention of the rate of his amping.

I believe Thor was operating at no more than 2x above his normal levels when he faced Thanos. Classic Thor was able to stun Thanos with Mjolnir blows.