Originally posted by NibedicusIt means that Surfer won't hold back his power(s) and won't be especially stupid according to the demands of plot. In simpler terms, it's Surfer at his best, as seen on-panel.
Well, I know that part. I was simply commenting on the OP's stipulation wherein he mentioned that this thread was "inspired by carver's thread" which in turn made me think that he intended to use that definition of CIP.shrug
So, what exactly would CIP/CIS mean? That he still won't kill/use lethal attacks?
Originally posted by ODG
It means that Surfer won't hold back his power(s) and won't be especially stupid according to the demands of plot. In simpler terms, it's Surfer at his best, as seen on-panel.
Well, that teaches me to listen to carver. 😠
Anyway, we know that the Surfer can create singularities inside others on panel which is then further corroborated by character statements where he mentioned that he can "build singularities in their eyes--all without effort" when threatened and he simply chooses not to. With CIS/CIP off and bloodlust on, he'd have no such self limitation, would he?
We also know that Superman brain can be affected externally like when Manchester Black pinched one of his cranial arteries to simulate a stroke using TK (IIRC).
Would singularity to the brain really be too far out of the realm of possibility?
I would probably agree about the shrinking thing tho as Surfer never alluded to ever using this tactic in a battle before (tho I maintain that in a FFA, this would be a smart move as this would reduce the number of opponents he has to worry about and make him much harder to hit).
^ That Surfer scan of "singularities inside eyes" isn't canon. Granted, Surfer did create a singularity (that formed a huge black hole) inside Air Walker's body with seemingly casual ease.
If Superman stood still long enough for Surfer to lay his hand upon Superman's head and wasn't trying to defend himself then, no, it's not too far out of the realm of possibility.
Really? In Thy Name isn't canon? Didn't know that. I have the comic but didn't know that it was an alternate reality or something?
I mean I checked this website and it says it is:
http://galaxiesandcomics.com/marvel/comics/inthyname.htm
But that site could be wrong, tho. 😛
Originally posted by vince_slice
Surfer's more likely to energy blast, energy drain, and energy disrupt Superman. Energy disruption might work best, since Superman is a living solar battery. Surfer defeated Wonderman and Vision by throwing their "power stores" out of whack. And when bloodlusted, Surfer's attacks can be planetary.
Superman can tank a planet dwarfing jupiter blowing up in his face under a red sun and kryptonite twice.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Has he ever done that, tho?Also, Surfer would no doubt be quick (heh) as he will simply go in and out (hehx2) once he deposits (hehx3) the "black hole"( 😮 ).
Originally posted by zopzop
How though? The Surfer can still create PC shields or go intangible. Not to mention he's so fast he'd probably just evade them.Or worse, encasing him in 1 million tons of adamantium. Think about it, he, apparently instantly, tansmuted a HUGE chunk of that ship in the Enslavers arc into a space armada.
Originally posted by NibedicusHmm, I could be wrong. Maybe it was Silver Surfer: Requiem that wasn't canon and I mixed the two up.
Really? In Thy Name isn't canon? Didn't know that. I have the comic but didn't know that it was an alternate reality or something?I mean I checked this website and it says it is:
http://galaxiesandcomics.com/marvel/comics/inthyname.htm
But that site could be wrong, tho. 😛
Originally posted by curryman
Can't vibrate through adamantium.
Originally posted by carver9
Oh lord...here is another ft that is about to be debunked. Poor Supes.
Originally posted by ODG
^ "CIP" is Character Inhibited Power. Not Character Induced Personality. This latter term doesn't even make sense. What -Pr- is probably getting at is that it's possibly within his abilities. But Surfer has never gone Microverse-small to create singularities inside his opponent's form. He's never transmuted tons of adamantium around his opponent out of thin air. He's never actually done these things outside of a fight, let alone in a fight.A CIP/CIS-less Surfer has forcibly evolved an entire planet to death, has trapped Legacy inside his board, has blown up planets in his fights, has completely drained the energies powering his foes, has BFRed his foe into a post-apocalyptic future, has genetically altered a being to bind him to an ecosystem, etc.
There's plenty to go on from on-panel fights where Surfer cuts loose with both power and versatility that we don't need to theorycraft/invent feats or tactics. That stuff's better left to a tourney or forum avatar thread.
For the most part, yes.
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Shut up Carver.