Kneel Before ZOD (Man of Steel)

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i withdraw my GL argument. Just watched some clips, and Hal's constructs were weaksauce.

Originally posted by marwash22
i withdraw my GL argument. Just watched some clips, and Hal's constructs were weaksauce.

So who do you think stops him? Or do you now think he clears?

agreed Shaw could be drowned or probably thrown into space. His absorption feats are high end though--nuclear reactors can power ships for years. magneto was smacking him with steel beams as hard as he could with no effect.
...interesting thought to see if he could prevent any form of flight of himself via kinetic absorption to prevent bfr...maybe.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Her TP will probably get blocked by Zod's helmet and his own TP skills.

What?

hmm Magneto's helmet blocking Xavier's tp and Zod's tvo/telepathy/whatever da fuq he pulled on Kal.

Originally posted by K-Dog
agreed Shaw could be drowned or probably thrown into space. His absorption feats are high end though--nuclear reactors can power ships for years. magneto was smacking him with steel beams as hard as he could with no effect.
...interesting thought to see if he could prevent any form of flight of himself via kinetic absorption to prevent bfr...maybe.
Yeah he did absorb a nuclear reactor, but he did it gradually iirc. Not trying to take anything away from the feat, just saying.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
hmm Magneto's helmet blocking Xavier's tp and Zod's tvo/telepathy/whatever da fuq he pulled on Kal.
You mean the helmet that was specifically designed to block tp?

Iirc he used a device to get inside Lois' and Clark's minds, I don't recall anything in the movie showing or alluding to the fact that he or any other kryptonian has tp.

I did say "probably." I remember people making an argument for Thor's helmet being capable of blocking TP a few years ago, so I said why not?

And what is this device? It was never explained how Zod got in Kal's mind. All I know is I never saw a device.

I did say Zod would probably blitz her before she tried anything.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I did say "probably." I remember people making an argument for Thor's helmet being capable of blocking TP a few years ago, so I said why not?

And what is this device? It was never explained how Zod got in Kal's mind. All I know is I never saw a device.

I did say Zod would probably blitz her before she tried anything.

I humored the idea of Zod TP but it doesn't add up.. Why didn't he try to mind rape him later on? It would of been amazing to see superman power out of a TP assault .. But it didnt happen. It only happened on the ship with all the funky mostly unexplored kryptonian tech so it's not that big a leap to assume it was a function of the ship. The ship had a kryptonian atmosphere and Zod dismissed his collapse as superman needing to acclimate when Lois asked for them to help him and the such so it being a trick of the ship just seems more accurate.. KO superman then 'matrix' dream hijack him. I'd say Zod most likely had a stronger mental muscle from interacting with said possible machine but nothing to give him much footing if someone tried to TP attack him.. Personally I'd like to think he can hold himself together long enough to decap someone but given he is dead we will never know.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
I humored the idea of Zod TP but it doesn't add up.. Why didn't he try to mind rape him later on? It would of been amazing to see superman power out of a TP assault .. But it didnt happen. It only happened on the ship with all the funky mostly unexplored kryptonian tech so it's not that big a leap to assume it was a function of the ship. The ship had a kryptonian atmosphere and Zod dismissed his collapse as superman needing to acclimate when Lois asked for them to help him and the such so it being a trick of the ship just seems more accurate.. KO superman then 'matrix' dream hijack him. I'd say Zod most likely had a stronger mental muscle from interacting with said possible machine but nothing to give him much footing if someone tried to TP attack him.. Personally I'd like to think he can hold himself together long enough to decap someone but given he is dead we will never know.
The TP probably failed because Kal-El was not unconscious. He was actively punching Zod's shit in.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
The TP probably failed because Kal-El was not unconscious. He was actively punching Zod's shit in.

The action was fast but Zod has his chances.. When he was making his speech about how he had nothing left superman wasn't moving until Zod tackled him and started talking about how he was going to kill every human one at a time. He could of rage TP mind attacked him instead.. Or when he was on the ground with superman over him struggling to break free of his grip shouting that superman had to kill him while he was blasting heat vision at a small family.. Could of maybe tried something then.

Unless you mean he needs a person to be KO to use the TP which.. Idk.. That seems odd. Does anyone have TP that functions like that? Sounds Like dream walking and the such.

I brought up the TP and helmet to point out that TP is not guaranteed to work. My main point has always been that Phoenix will probably get decapitated before she tries anything.

Dwelling on how the TP worked or why Zod didn't use it again is something I don't really want to do. We lack info to engage in a proper debate/argument. So I guess I'm conceding *shrug*

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I brought up the TP and helmet to point out that TP is not guaranteed to work. My main point has always been that Phoenix will probably get decapitated before she tries anything.

Dwelling on how the TP worked or why Zod didn't use it again is something I don't really want to do. We lack info to engage in a proper debate/argument. So I guess I'm conceding *shrug*

Oh I only brought it up because it's all iffy. If the TP was him then some resistance is given, if it was the ship then not so much. The helmet itself being able to resist TP is just an assumption unless I missed something here. (as in something stated in the film that went over my head) It follows a certain logic that if they have tech that can invade a person mind they would have safe guards for such things and the helmet may or may not have such a safe guard.. But that again is an assumption. The only solid way for Zod to have resistance is if it was him with the TP ability but sadly it just didn't seem to add up that way.

Guess I should of just said something like that rather than say all the crap I did before. Didn't mean to drag you into something needless 😄

I agree he takes her head off before she can do anything worth while.

Only difficulty would be with Phoenix, either she gets lucky and vaporizes him instantly or he uses heat vision.

Other than that, none of them can compete with Zod.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I did say "probably." I remember people making an argument for Thor's helmet being capable of blocking TP a few years ago, so I said why not?

And what is this device? It was never explained how Zod got in Kal's mind. All I know is I never saw a device.

I did say Zod would probably blitz her before she tried anything.

This is hilarious, you've gone full abhi.

There was nothing that showed Zod having tp.

People being whacked, yo.

Actually I'm gonna say Phoenix loses too. She's not disintegrating Zod.

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Actually I'm gonna say Phoenix loses too. She's not disintegrating Zod.

Why not?

because people have made the leap in logic that Zod's skin is significantly stronger than steel.

Does Loki get his avengers staff? I think Loki gives him more trouble than GL. He has Decent durability but mostly his illusions would at least make him annoying to deal with.