Superman versus Superboy Prime

Originally posted by Odekahn
Go read it again and come back. My impression (and I still stand by it) that I had the entire time was that both Thor and Prime were fighting under the same condition (i.e. CIS/CIP off).

If you want to quote me to try and make me look like a contradictory, biased fanboy, at least keep it in context.

Why were you under that impression? CIP/CIS off were listed for Thor, and Prime had CIS off in the same way that he rarely if ever holds back in a comic. Well whatever, I was just browsing and your post stood out. I thought it was funny. Still is.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman has never had a good showing against a full-powered Prime, alone or with aid.

Superboy Prime with a glimmer of sunlight on his finger tips overpowered a team of heroes, including such A-listers like Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and... Oh, Superman.

Three Superman-tier beings (One of them the geniune article) have been rag-dolled by a sufficiently motivated Prime.

He punches his fist down Superman's throat and uses him as a reverse sock puppet.

So you don't think the stipulations do anything for Superman at all? Especially considering every thing Superman's done in his history (including roughing up beings greater than Prime) and not just his brief encounters with Prime?

Originally posted by Odekahn
This is CIS/CIP less Superman.

If it were regular Clark, I'd agree with you.

Originally posted by Odekahn
The fact that he's DC.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you don't think the stipulations do anything for Superman at all? Especially considering every thing Superman's done in his history (including roughing up beings greater than Prime) and not just his brief encounters with Prime?

When you say CIP, does that mean you are taking into account every feat he ever performed, in lieu of battle showings against Prime?

Originally posted by NemeBro
When you say CIP, does that mean you are taking into account every feat he ever performed, in lieu of battle showings against Prime?

I'm taking into account his feats (barring the ones with context/aid/plot device/etc.) across his entire canonical career at the peak of his power in addition to his showings against Prime.

Considering Superman can do anything from brawling and slugging it out against an opponent or using superior skill and combat acumen against them, I personally don't feel that Superman engaged Prime as effectively as he could have based on other battles he's had. I do acknowledge Prime's power advantage, though.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm taking into account his feats (barring the ones with context/aid/plot device/etc.) across his entire canonical career at the peak of his power in addition to his showings against Prime.

Considering Superman can do anything from brawling and slugging it out against an opponent or using superior skill and combat acumen against them, I personally don't feel that Superman engaged Prime as effectively as he could have based on other battles he's had. I do acknowledge Prime's power advantage, though.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So to you Cip and cis off Yat = Superman ?

Where'd you get that impression from?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm taking into account his feats (barring the ones with context/aid/plot device/etc.) across his entire canonical career at the peak of his power in addition to his showings against Prime.

Considering Superman can do anything from brawling and slugging it out against an opponent or using superior skill and combat acumen against them, I personally don't feel that Superman engaged Prime as effectively as he could have based on other battles he's had. I do acknowledge Prime's power advantage, though.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I agree. Superman would destroy Thor. biscuits

If Superman wasn't bound by CIS/CIP and Thor still was, sure. 😎

Hey what happened with you and Blair's tourney? I thought you were cohosting.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Hey what happened with you and Blair's tourney? I thought you were cohosting.

I don't really have the time to keep up with actually co-hosting an ongoing tournament as of now and all the responsibilities to date, unfortunately. At best, I can offer a thorough judging or something similar.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't really have the time to keep up with actually co-hosting an ongoing tournament as of now and all the responsibilities to date, unfortunately. At best, I can offer a thorough judging or something similar.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why were you under that impression? CIP/CIS off were listed for Thor, and Prime had CIS off in the same way that he rarely if ever holds back in a comic. Well whatever, I was just browsing and your post stood out. I thought it was funny. Still is.

Because of the way carver worded it. It appeared as though he was under the impression that SBP already fought with CIS off casually. So I was just trying to answer the question in the way I thought it was asked.

If you take into accounts feats, I'm sure Superman would beat Prime. However, considering their history in fights, Prime wins.

Prime 10/10. Pretty much spite.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Doesn't really fit with the argument...

Originally posted by Zack Fair
STFU

sneer

If Prime catches him one time with a lethal dose of hv then it is over.
But Superman has a chance with the Cisless Cipless conditions.
He can go for t-vo or intangibility more often than not. He can even try to sing him out of existence.

So this fight is mostly based off how do you guys feel Superboy Prime can deal with Superman's top speed and reflexes being always on. Can Prime catch him before being sung out of existence or being t-voed?

Originally posted by Odekahn
Where'd you get that impression from?