Green Lanterns vs This Team

Started by Cogito4 pages

Originally posted by ODG
You act like forged willpower cannot manifest as weaponized cosmic metal. Based on what, exactly?

The entirety of Oa's planet was created from this willpower by Ion Kyle. Pretty sure the dirt on Oa's surface is dirt. And if someone like Geoforce were to fight on that planet, he could use terrakinesis to manipulate the ground. But somehow, according to you, that cannot possibly be the case. Because it started out as willpower.

Likely story, right?

Stop trolling.

Ion I was god-like, capable of rewriting the universe. It also happened pre-Rebirth. Don't compare that shit to a (post-Rebirth) GL ring.

John's quoted excerpts from the Book of Oa.
For will is the ore from which a ring and battery are crafted.

So what he have here are two scenarios.
Option 1 (mine): Johns retconned the rings
Option 2 (yours): Johns forgot to quote the passage that said "and then that willpower transforms into metal"

No. Bullshit. It explicitly says the rings are made of willpower. It literally couldn't be any more clear.

Originally posted by Cogito
Stop trolling.

Ion I was god-like, capable of rewriting the universe. It also happened pre-Rebirth. Don't compare that shit to a (post-Rebirth) GL ring.

How is it trolling when I show you that willpower can manifest itself into matter? And the recreation of Oa is canon post-Rebirth, anyway. You act like Green Lantern: Rebirth was some event of CoIE-retconning proportions. It wasn't. At all.
Originally posted by Cogito
John's quoted excerpts from the Book of Oa.
For will is the ore from which a ring and battery are crafted.
Considering that the entire process mirrored a steel forge process, I don't see how this scene distances itself away from it being weaponized cosmic metal. "Foundry", "forge," "ore," "crafted," "mold," these words aren't a result of pure coincidence. N1gga, please.
Originally posted by Cogito
So what he have here are two scenarios.
Option 1 (mine): Johns retconned the rings
Option 2 (yours): Johns forgot to quote the passage that said "and then that willpower transforms into metal"
Option 3: There was never a retcon since rings were probably forged in a similar manner previously. You never did bother to provide scans that showed a completely different pre-Rebirth process for forging rings and batteries. Don't think I haven't noticed. Three times over.
Originally posted by Cogito
No. Bullshit. It explicitly says the rings are made of willpower. It literally couldn't be any more clear.
It literally couldn't be any clearer that GL rings have been affected by magnetism on-panel. This scene doesn't negate that.

Had you a scene where Nu52 Dr. Polaris tries to pull a ring off and Guy smugly screams, "This ain't anything like metal, ya clown." Then you'd have a point. That would be a clear retcon. This isn't. And it might not even be a retcon from previous scenes where GL rings/batteries are created.

And how do you explain Sinestro making Hal a ring from his ring? GLs lost the ability to create solid materials ages ago.

It's simple, Johns retconned it. Or the other writer was an idiot. I still haven't seen the scene where Dr. Polaris did that (not that I have much doubt it exists)

Originally posted by Cogito
And how do you explain Sinestro making Hal a ring from his ring? GLs lost the ability to create solid materials ages ago.

It's simple, Johns retconned it. Or the other writer was an idiot. I still haven't seen the scene where Dr. Polaris did that (not that I have much doubt it exists)

What does that have to do with anything? Besides, I remember it being pointed out to me that GLs have created emergency rings in the past. GLs ability to transmute matter is suspect, I agree. But Ganthet isn't exactly your normal GL. And, as Johns has beaten us over the head with these past few years, neither is Sinestro.

WHAT RETCON? You STILL haven't showed me a single scan before Rebirth that shows a completely different process of battery/ring forging that starts with metal. Stop being so blatantly obtuse and so willfully ignorant. How many times do I have to point this out to you? Four times at least, so far.

Guys, get back on topic please.

Found the issue where Polaris affected Kyle's ring. JLA Volume 3 #59.

It was one of those ridiculous comics where Plastic Man was wanked. Kyle punched himself in the face, apparently WW is highly vulnerable to electricity, and Superman was beat by derelict ships and, I shit you not, volcanic ash. Apparently Wally "couldn't slow down long enough to take the Doc out" (he was clearing metal debris). Of course they had to have Plastic Man step in because he has no metal in him.

If that's not a PIS ridden story, I don't know what is.

Originally posted by Cogito
Found the issue where Polaris affected Kyle's ring. JLA Volume 3 #59.

It was one of those ridiculous comics where Plastic Man was wanked. Kyle punched himself in the face, apparently WW is highly vulnerable to electricity, and Superman was beat by derelict ships and, I shit you not, volcanic ash. Apparently Wally "couldn't slow down long enough to take the Doc out" (he was clearing metal debris). Of course they had to have Plastic Man step in because he has no metal in him.

If that's not a PIS ridden story, I don't know what is.


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Just like Trial By Fire.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Just like Trial By Fire.

It should also be noted that a super rookie Kyle took on Polaris in GL V3 #59. Dr. Polaris didn't affect Kyle's ring then, and after a couple panels of Kyle getting knocked around (without any apparent damage) he one-shot the Doc.

I'll try and post scans later.

Originally posted by Cogito
Found the issue where Polaris affected Kyle's ring. JLA Volume 3 #59.

It was one of those ridiculous comics where Plastic Man was wanked. Kyle punched himself in the face, apparently WW is highly vulnerable to electricity, and Superman was beat by derelict ships and, I shit you not, volcanic ash. Apparently Wally "couldn't slow down long enough to take the Doc out" (he was clearing metal debris). Of course they had to have Plastic Man step in because he has no metal in him.

If that's not a PIS ridden story, I don't know what is.

The writer actually apologized for that story.

Originally posted by Golgo13
The writer actually apologized for that story.

😂 did he? I don't think I've ever seen a writer apologize.