Imperiex Probe VS..

Started by carver94 pages
Originally posted by abhilegend
That namor was also stalemated by Thing.

Doesn't change anything. Thing has hung with he best of them. Just because Thing gave Hulk a fight doesn't mean he will be thunder clapping an entire pocket universe to dust anytime soon.

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't change anything. Thing has hung with he best of them. Just because Thing gave Hulk a fight doesn't mean he will be thunder clapping an entire pocket universe to dust anytime soon.

Feats alone don't decide the matches. We take the fights between characters too. Hulk is a bad example because of his dynamic power set. He can be as strong as story needs him to be and as weak as the story needs him to. If you really want to compare Thing's status check out his fights with other class 100. BTW hulk has always kicked Thing's ass, Thing has never been a real challenge for hulk. Heck one time he got his strength doubled and Hulk still kicked his ass.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Feats alone don't decide the matches. We take the fights between characters too. Hulk is a bad example because of his dynamic power set. He can be as strong as story needs him to be and as weak as the story needs him to. If you really want to compare Thing's status check out his fights with other class 100. BTW hulk has always kicked Thing's ass, Thing has never been a real challenge for hulk. Heck one time he got his strength doubled and Hulk still kicked his ass.

You using another showing doesn't change what Namor did. Just because Ironman beat Magneto doesn't take away from the fact that Magneto was amping himself off planets throughout the solar system. Just accept the ft and move on bro. You went haywire when people dismissed Superman bench pressing ft because during the same issue he got overpowered by a decayed dino tail. It was a high showing for Namor.

Originally posted by carver9
You using another showing doesn't change what Namor did. Just because Ironman beat Magneto doesn't take away from the fact that Magneto was amping himself off planets throughout the solar system. Just accept the ft and move on bro. You went haywire when people dismissed Superman bench pressing ft because during the same issue he got overpowered by a decayed dino tail. It was a high showing for Namor.

Another bad example. Magneto gave up the fight when he sensed phoenix destroying a planet and let tony beat him. Oh carver.

I didn't. That was Philo. Also that kryptonian dino doesn't have a history of getting his ass kicked by every tom, dick and harry. He had a showing of overpowering someone who just bench-pressed earth's weight for 5 days. When would you start reading comics carver?

By your own reasoning a probe beat Ion amped Kyle who under the same writer and in the same arc contained a big bang and the probe shrugged off his attacks and knocked him out. Where would that rank the probes carver?

lol, I don't think Carver is capable of hating DC any more than he does already.

Lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, I don't think Carver is capable of hating DC any more than he does already.

Carver is full of surprises. Never underestimate him.

uhuh

Abhi hates Marvel at least as much as Carter hates DC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That namor was also stalemated by Thing.

Issue number?

Originally posted by abhilegend
By your own reasoning a probe beat Ion amped Kyle who under the same writer and in the same arc contained a big bang and the probe shrugged off his attacks and knocked him out. Where would that rank the probes carver?

We never see Kyle attack a Probe. His constructs and shield were taken out by an energy blast. Stop lying.

Kind of funny that you think a Kyle who can't shield from a Probe's energy blast (Energy that Aquaman tanked) is operating on the same level as when he contained Imperiex Prime.

Well GL power varies by their will, maybe he was unsure of himself then.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Abhi hates Marvel at least as much as Carter hates DC.

Seems that way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Issue number?

We never see Kyle attack a Probe. His constructs and shield were taken out by an energy blast. Stop lying.

Kind of funny that you think a Kyle who can't shield from a Probe's energy blast (Energy that Aquaman tanked) is operating on the same level as when he contained Imperiex Prime.

by your reasoning, Hal can beat anyone because his attack against krona negates all his weaker attacks against anyone else right.

It does, as we saw here:

But there's the unspoken rule that only Superman can dig deep.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
by your reasoning, Hal can beat anyone because his attack against krona negates all his weaker attacks against anyone else right.

What? How could you possibly get that kind of reasoning from my post when I'm saying the exact opposite? My god, is being illiterate a prerequisite to loving Superman?

He's claiming that Kyle was operating on the same level against the Probes as he did in the Imperiex scene. I'm saying that equating an average Kyle to a high end Kyle is ridiculous. I'm saying that just because some random Alien tanked a blast from Hal, it doesn't mean they can tank a Krona Buster just because it's in the same story.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? How could possibly get that kind of reasoning from my post when I'm saying the exact opposite? My god, is being illiterate a prerequisite to loving Superman?

He's claiming that Kyle was operating on the same level against the Probes as he did in the Imperiex scene. I'm saying that equating an average Kyle to a high end Kyle is ridiculous. I'm saying that just because some random Alien tanked a blast from Hal, it doesn't mean they can tank a Krona Buster.

except you refer to the probes random alien. The same one that tore apart the GL. Just because you didn't see him doing the highest of end feat doesn't mean he was at his average or low.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
except you refer to the probes random alien. The same one that tore apart the GL. Just because you didn't see him doing the highest of end feat doesn't mean he was at his average or low.

Substitute a Probe for Lobo or someone if it makes you feel better.

Of course it does because we saw Green Lantern's shield and constructs shattered by a blast from the Probe. And we saw Aquaman/Wonder Woman tank an energy blast from the Probe so we have an idea of where he was in terms of ranking.

It's one thing if Kyle gave it all he got to no effect, but that's not what happened. News flash, Superman isn't the only one who operates on a lower level on average.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Abhi hates Marvel at least as much as Carter hates DC.

I don't hate marvel.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Issue number?

We never see Kyle attack a Probe. His constructs and shield were taken out by an energy blast. Stop lying.

Kind of funny that you think a Kyle who can't shield from a Probe's energy blast (Energy that Aquaman tanked) is operating on the same level as when he contained Imperiex Prime.


UXM 11.

Yes it was. The missiles kyle created shattered on the probe.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla1.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla2.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla3.jpg

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla4.jpg

Different probes bro. Aquaman took the blast as well as diana, now he's as durable as her too? He also wasn't nearly killed by a probe exploding like diana.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It does, as we saw here:

But there's the unspoken rule that only Superman can dig deep.


That's kyle's usual whining untill someone reminds him of his power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Substitute a Probe for Lobo or someone if it makes you feel better.

Of course it does because we saw Green Lantern's shield and constructs shattered by a single blast from the Probe. And we saw Aquaman/Wonder Woman tank an energy blast from the Probe so we have an idea of where he was in terms of standings.

It's one thing if Kyle gave it all he got to no effect, but that's not what happened. And news flash, Superman isn't the only one who can cut loose.

I think you missing my point.
If Kyle was on his average, it's a damn good feat for the probes. Trying to make it seem bad by using his Kyles greatest feats is the wrong way to look at it.

everyone cuts loose but not be nearly at the levels as Superman

Originally posted by abhilegend
UXM 11.

I'll double check.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes it was. The missiles kyle created shattered on the probe.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla1.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla2.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla3.jpg

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_probejla4.jpg

No, the missiles he created were shattered by the energy blast. None of them even reached the Probe. We don't see any contact from Kyle's energy and the Probe:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Different probes bro. Aquaman took the blast as well as diana, now he's as durable as her too? He also wasn't nearly killed by a probe exploding like diana.
That's kyle's usual whining untill someone reminds him of his power.

What do you mean different Probes? It was the same one that Kyle fought. I don't care if he is or isn't, I just know that Kyle is more powerful then either and can create shields a lot more durable then either when push comes to shove. What did happen to Aquaman? His armor was left empty.

Oh shit, you mean that Kyle doesn't always operate on a high end level such as when he contained Imperiex? Like I've been trying to point out to you this entire time? 😐

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think you missing my point.
If Kyle was on his average, it's a damn good feat for the probes. Trying to make it seem bad by using his Kyles greatest feats is the wrong way to look at it.

everyone cuts loose but not be nearly at the levels as Superman

No, I get your point. I just think it's stupid.

Did I say it was a bad feat for the Probe? I'm arguing that exaggerating the showing by mentioning Kyle's greatest feats is silly. Abhil's line of reasoning goes like this: The Probe is crazy durable, look at how Kyle contained the essence of Imperiex Prime later on. I think it's stupid, ass-backwards reasoning. And assumes that Kyle is always at his greatest. Despite us knowing that it's hardly the case:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16236617/Wonder_Woman_v2_172_pg13.jpg.html

😂