Hulk Vs Speedblitz

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Hulk Vs Speedblitz

I'll admit that I am a Hulk fan, but the last comics I read are WWH and Worldbreaker.

I do know a lot of people seem to believe that someone like Superman could just speedblitz hulk very easily.

I think this is a strong possibility.

Does anyone know of any comics that I can read that shows Hulk getting beat badly due to a Speed Blitz?

I am just looking for new stuff to read.

I do know he fought the Sentry and Glads.
Sentry seem to be moving pretty fast, but not light speeds I believe.

Glads I don't even think tried to speed blitz Hulk at all.

I could be wrong though.

Anyone lol.

i don't think anybody has fought Hulk using speed blitz. I think writers chose to go this route because it would be a pretty boring fight (in terms of a Hulk fight) lol.

Well....you could count Hulk tagging Quicksilver....but no people would just call it PIS.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Well....you could count Hulk tagging Quicksilver....but no people would just call it PIS.

Cause it is

Originally posted by TheHulk
Well....you could count Hulk tagging Quicksilver....but no people would just call it PIS.

Who calls it PIS?
It's a legitimate and pretty LOW-end feat for Hulk.

He usually tags heralds. There are too many examples of Hulk being fast enough to react to / counter-act / attack FTL level heralds for it to be anything but simply part of his powerset.

Also, makes perfect sense that he would have the power to move that fast, given that he weights nothing relative to the power of his arms and legs. It's like having the muscles of a horse and the body weight of a grain of sand or something.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Well....you could count Hulk tagging Quicksilver....but no people would just call it PIS.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cause it is
See what i mean 😉

Originally posted by janus77
Who calls it PIS?
It's a legitimate and pretty LOW-end feat for Hulk.
😆

Originally posted by janus77
Who He usually tags heralds. There are too many examples of Hulk being fast enough to react to / counter-act / attack FTL level heralds for it to be anything but simply part of his powerset.
I don't agree a little.

Originally posted by janus77
Who Also, makes perfect sense that he would have the power to move that fast, given that he weights nothing relative to the power of his arms and legs. It's like having the muscles of a horse and the body weight of a grain of sand or something.
This i agree 👆

Originally posted by janus77
He usually tags heralds. There are too many examples of Hulk being fast enough to react to / counter-act / attack FTL level heralds for it to be anything but simply part of his powerset.

Also, makes perfect sense that he would have the power to move that fast, given that he weights nothing relative to the power of his arms and legs. It's like having the muscles of a horse and the body weight of a grain of sand or something.

I'm sorry but the heralds he fights aren't fighting him at FTL speeds, just because a character can go that fast doesn't mean they fight him that fast (and they dont.)

Even with your analogy of power to arms and legs he doesn't have enough power to move ftl he never has, the muscles of a horse and the weight of a grain of sand still wouldn't make him ftl.

Hulk has stamina and strength in bounds thats his thing but reactions and speed aren't, unless you think Wolverine who tags him all the time is now FTL?

Hulk has blitzed Airwalker before...he didn't even have the time to react.

Speed Freak... Merged hulk.

But he's on the low end of the "speedster scale" so I'm not sure if he fits your criteria.

Someone with true hypersonic plus speed and/or microsecond or better reaction feats should be all but impossible for him to hit.

You cannot have super speed reactions without having super speed.

It's like saying your muscles move orders of magnitude faster than your own muscles. Illogical nonsense that falls apart when you think about it.

So no, Hulk cannot react to anyone that perceives and moves on a significantly faster level than he does.

hulk wins

Originally posted by CosmicComet
You cannot have super speed reactions without having super speed.

It's absolutely possible to have super speed reactions without the movement speed to accompany them, a Jedi in Star Wars can run at around 40 mph tops using Force Speed but they can react to and deflect projectiles moving at hypersonic speeds or faster. In the ROTS novelization Obi-Wan was able to deflect blasts from 10,000 droids at once, and it said he moved his lightsaber so fast it looked like a solid dome of light around him.

But enough about SW, there's a comic where this robot is blitzing Northstar and Nova all over the place, they can barely even perceive it, but the Hulk (Professor Hulk) comes in and not only tags it easily but crushes it in one blow.

Also in the more recent run the Huk was observing Banner's flesh being melted off by the explosion of the gamma bomb, which would take a tiny fraction of a second since they were right near the blast, yet he was describing it as if it was happening in slow motion.

Hulk has super speed reactions, this is undeniable. Not that they're enough to beat Superman and other such characters, though.

When it comes to the Hulk, writers dumb down the fast characters or it would be pretty boring as said before.

The problem is that in marvel there are almost no speedster even approaching the strength level of hulk to beat him. Heck there was a time when hulk was travelling faster than the officially fastest guy on earth, quicksilver.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's absolutely possible to have super speed reactions without the movement speed to accompany them, a Jedi in Star Wars can run at around 40 mph tops using Force Speed but they can react to and deflect projectiles moving at hypersonic speeds or faster. In the ROTS novelization Obi-Wan was able to deflect blasts from 10,000 droids at once, and it said he moved his lightsaber so fast it looked like a solid dome of light around him.

It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE logically. Reaction speed is half based on how fast your muscles move and half based on how fast you perceive a stimulus.

It doesn't matter if some fictions don't know any better and create a nonsensical trope accidentally.

Hypersonic reactions, yet slower than a cheetah. Think about that implication. Obi Wan's arms move thousands and thousands of times faster than his legs eh? So if there was a time dilation in place where hypersonic speed would look like normal speed, then you mean to say Obi Wan's arms would look like their moving at normal speed yet his legs would be seemingly frozen in spot, correct? No? That's right. No. Because that means his legs would be useless in a fight and he'd never do anything other than stay in one spot for duels because his own legs would be too slow for him to even perceive that they are even moving. If his legs are able to move during that time dilation then it instantly contradicts the stupid 40 mph stat. If he can fully stretch his arm in the time frame of say a 100 microseconds (just a rough guesstimate) and he can take a step with his feet during the same time frame (the same way any normal person can take a step forward in the same time frame it takes to throw a punch) then his movement speed is ALREADY immensely faster than 40 mph. All he has to do is keep taking steps and before one real time second has passed, he'll have already crossed miles.

Unless a writer specifically lays out the claim that X can 'react' this fast and only 'move' Y fast (which is still retarded because reacting IS moving), then one of the two situations it creates is simple PIS. You have to discard one or the other.

As for Hulk, has super speed reaction of course, because he has some degree of super speed, but his super speed reactions cannot greatly exceed his running speed. At best two or three times better.

Generally, reaction time and movement speed are proportional (in comics it's basically a given that if a guy runs faster than another, then he is also 'faster' in every other way with a few exceptions).

And it's only logical. If you think much faster than your body is able to move, then you're basically seeing in slow motion how somebody punches you and you're like "here it comes...a few moments more...I wonder how it will feel?".

If you move much faster than you think, basically your arms will flay around at speeds that you can't coordonate. Maybe you'll hit yourself by mistake.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Generally, reaction time and movement speed are proportional (in comics it's basically a given that if a guy runs faster than another, then he is also 'faster' in every other way with a few exceptions).

And it's only logical. If you think much faster than your body is able to move, then you're basically seeing in slow motion how somebody punches you and you're like "here it comes...a few moments more...I wonder how it will feel?".

If you move much faster than you think, basically your arms will flay around at speeds that you can't coordonate. Maybe you'll hit yourself by mistake.

Absolutely right.

Basically, true super speed isn't perceiving yourself as fast, but seeing normal things as slow.

Smallville portrayed that better than anything else.