Are you sure you want to worship god?
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Worship.pdf
What if the great apostle was telling the truth when he wrote that Satan is the God of this world in 2 Cor.4:4 would you willing worship Satan the Devil?
Many do worship Satan the Devil every Sunday in a place called the Church.
Are you among them?
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Worship.pdf
Come see who God really is.
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Worship.pdf
Okie
Ya know, I had never done any kind of research into religion in my life, and then one day a man came along and posted a PDF booklet on a discussion board. I didn't think much of it at first, but he posted it three times in the same post. I figured it must be important. Now, I'm saved, and it's all thanks to that mysterious stranger.
dur
Looks like your main issues involve magical thinking and using an unverifiable document as a primary source of evidence. The tone of such impersonal evangelizing also leaves a lot to be desired. I've never found any kind of data to corroborate this, but I can't imagine the "conversion rate" is very high with internet preaching. You're either speaking to your base already, or you're drown out in the deluge of information available, and the lack of personal interaction that is needed in most conversions.
Blessings upon you.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If god is satan and the bible is the word of god then isn't the bible stantic? Why should I do what satan tells me?
I cannot see ever see myself worshiping a God.
Is needing, wanting or worshiping a God a human defect?
Gods have no needs or wants Gods are said to be so high above us that for any God to have such a need would be like man craving the adoration of germs.
I see us as just as foolish as these creatures as we act the same way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4a_uwyY_H4
I can see where at one time it would have been profitable to bend the knee to King/Gods as in the original archetype city states, as used in the original Eden myth written by the Jews, but not today.
Our present secular systems of governance have bested the Gods in the moral and legal senses and only the really right wing nuts would want to live under the laws of the old barbaric Gods.
I am not an atheist and seek God to appease what I recognize as my spiritual side. But not to bend the knee or adore but just to improve any defect in my thinking; if I have one.
I know that there are way more followers out there than leaders but cannot fathom why someone would want to lower themselves to adore even a God unless it is strictly as a self-serving action that we hope God will recognize and reward.
That is hardly being good for goodness sake. God would know and send such hypocrites to hell. Which scriptures say is where the vast majority of us will end up regardless.
That means that you, even if you pray daily and hard, are likely going to hell along with most of those you know.
In a sense, you should feel sorry for those few who make it to heaven as they must spend eternity watching their loved ones in purposeless torture.
Gods have no needs or wants and have no rewards to give in exchange for what they have no need or want of.
The Godhead I know certainly disavows such a need or want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkT1-N0VqUc
Why then, if you are a believer, do you need or want to worship your God if not for the reward you think it will bring you?
Regards
DL
Very wise choice
I cannot see ever see myself worshiping a God.
If only you knew who God really is.
No one would worship God if they knew who and what God is and why we have the gods anyway.
Read Ps.82.
Then check out the web site
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Lord-God.pdf
Have yourself a great day.
Okie
Re: Very wise choice
Originally posted by Okieshowedem
I cannot see ever see myself worshiping a God.If only you knew who God really is.
No one would worship God if they knew who and what God is and why we have the gods anyway.
Read Ps.82.
Then check out the web site
http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Lord-God.pdf
Have yourself a great day.
Okie
Baal is a male God.
Elohim translates to Gods and Goddesses. Male and Female. The Abrahamic God is thus androgynous.
baal is thus not the true God of the bible.
Regards
DL
Re: Re: Very wise choice
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Baal is a male God.Elohim translates to Gods and Goddesses. Male and Female. The Abrahamic God is thus androgynous.
baal is thus not the true God of the bible.
Regards
DL
God is a title it comes from Satan the God of this world.
Elohim is translated Gods like el is God.
None of these titles belongs to the Creator.
The Creator has a Name He gave that Name to the world through the Hebrew people.
His Name is YAHWEH! He is not a God.
His Great Name is found in the Torah it is called the Tetragrammaton.
Yahweh ( , YHWH)
Okie
Re: Re: Re: Very wise choice
Originally posted by Okieshowedem
God is a title it comes from Satan the God of this world.
Elohim is translated Gods like el is God.
None of these titles belongs to the Creator.
The Creator has a Name He gave that Name to the world through the Hebrew people.
His Name is YAHWEH! He is not a God.
His Great Name is found in the Torah it is called the Tetragrammaton.
Yahweh ( , YHWH)Okie
Bottom line has to be the morality of a place called hell to hold such a mythical creature. We cannot ascertain if such concepts can exist but can determine if they are moral or not.
Your version of God is moral. Right?
Show how he can be.
Judgment and punishment go hand in hand.
Our human laws have a form of punishment where the penalty is graduated to fit the crime. An eye for an eye type of justice.
God‘s punishment seems to surpass this standard.
The definition I am comparing here is the eternal fire and torture type of hell and I am not particularly interested in the myriad of other definitions and theories that some use to supplant this traditional view.
To ascertain if hell would be a moral construct or not, all you need do is answer these
simple question for yourself.
1. Is it good justice for a soul to be able to sin for only 120 years and then have to suffer torture for 12000000000000000000000000 + years?
2. Is it good justice for small or mediocre sinners to have to bear the same sentence as Hitler, Stalin and other genocidal maniacs?
This might actually include God if you see Noah’s flood as God using genocide and not justice against man. Pardon the digression.
Punishment is usually only given to change attitude or actions and cause the sinner to repent.
3. Is it good justice to continue to torture a soul in hell if no change in attitude or actions are to result?
4. If you answered yes to these questions, then would killing the soul not be a better form of justice than to torture it for no possible good result or purpose?
Is hell a moral construct or not?
Please explain your reasons and know that ---just because you think God created it ---does not explain your moral judgment. It is your view I seek and not God’s as no one can speak for God.
Regards
DL
Well God might want you to burn in hell forever and two days......
Eternal hell fire is a Catholic teaching.
Like all the other teaching coming for this whore house religion it is a bawl face lie.
You can choose to live by a set standard that will not bring harm to you are anyone else or you can die and be gotten out of the way of those who will agree to live by this standard.
This standard is written in the Scriptures it is call the Torah.
There are 613 perfect Laws that if anyone will read them they would see just how fair and wonderful they are.
Most people really believe that some pagan God name Jesus Christ came a nailed these perfect Laws to a pagan cross.
This teaching is called Christianity and it too is a bawl face LIE!
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Bottom line has to be the morality of a place called hell to hold such a mythical creature. We cannot ascertain if such concepts can exist but can determine if they are moral or not.Your version of God is moral. Right?
Show how he can be.
Judgment and punishment go hand in hand.
Our human laws have a form of punishment where the penalty is graduated to fit the crime. An eye for an eye type of justice.
God‘s punishment seems to surpass this standard.The definition I am comparing here is the eternal fire and torture type of hell and I am not particularly interested in the myriad of other definitions and theories that some use to supplant this traditional view.
To ascertain if hell would be a moral construct or not, all you need do is answer these
simple question for yourself.1. Is it good justice for a soul to be able to sin for only 120 years and then have to suffer torture for 12000000000000000000000000 + years?
2. Is it good justice for small or mediocre sinners to have to bear the same sentence as Hitler, Stalin and other genocidal maniacs?
This might actually include God if you see Noah’s flood as God using genocide and not justice against man. Pardon the digression.Punishment is usually only given to change attitude or actions and cause the sinner to repent.
3. Is it good justice to continue to torture a soul in hell if no change in attitude or actions are to result?
4. If you answered yes to these questions, then would killing the soul not be a better form of justice than to torture it for no possible good result or purpose?
Is hell a moral construct or not?
Please explain your reasons and know that ---just because you think God created it ---does not explain your moral judgment. It is your view I seek and not God’s as no one can speak for God.
Regards
DL
Seems we agree on Christianity but not on Judaism.
"613 perfect Laws"
This statement is just as foolish as what Christians are saying though.
The Jews were and are brighter than the Christians and will continue to be from MPOV but the Abrahamic God is a prick by any decent measure.
Most Jews have wisely rejected the bible as real and know that Moses could not write of his own death.
Regards
DL