The Borg invade the Star Wars Movie Universe

Started by BruceSkywalker3 pages
Originally posted by golem370
No Death Star lol this beings during Episode 1

then it truly is a Borg stomp

If the Borg managed to beam a squad or two of drones into the DS or even a SD, then shit has hit the fan for the Empire. Borg can beam through shields (see episode 1 of "Best of Both Worlds"😉. Think of a DS or SD with Borg shields and weaponry - Borg armor is completely different from the Wars verse due to the fact that it is regenerative. Not only the armor is powerful, but the shields adapt to the weapons fire.

The only effective weapon against the Borg is the Force. In TPM, a lightsaber couldn't penetrate a shield (duel between Maul and Qui-Gon). A Jedi would be forced to use the Force non-stop.

As seen in Enterprise, a dead Borg drone can be revived from a completely dead state in 3 days.

The drones that crashed on Earth from the events that occurred in Star Trek: First Contact, died and became frozen. Those were the ones that revived themselves in an Enterprise Episode.

Here is why freezing like that, for a biological organism, is very bad: the water expands and causes microscopic tears/breaks in each cell when the organism freezes. This means the nanobots would have to repair every single cell that was damaged due to the freezing process. This is also why it took 3 days for them to revive completely.

This is important because even if the empire succeeds in killing all the drones, if even a single drone is left in a state where at least the main control unit (I believe they called it the cortical implants) is intact, they can revive from complete and utter death (down to the death of each cell) to fully functional in 3 days.

As we saw happen, just getting nanobots on technology can create a borg from nothing. That occurred in the episode of Voyager when a borg assimilated the Doctor's mobile emitter.

So not only do they have to destroy every last borg, they have to destroy all of the nanobots, too, just to be sure it doesn't later comeback to assimilate them, later.

Yes, the nanobots attached themselves to the ships technology, created a borg-baby, and matured it to a full adult in the course of just a few days. That's the benefit of matter to energy and energy to matter conversion technology. The utility in Star Trek tech is much greater than that of Star Wars' tech.

So, because of all this, I say that one Borg cube is more than enough to take on even a Death Star, without issue. As we saw with First Contact, they are not afraid to beam aboard another ship and discreetly take it over even in the face of their own ship being obliterated. Keep in mind that shields really really don't matter to the Borg.

Also, anyone claiming that the Borg can adapt to planet busting ships is either ignorant or lying. Species 8472 possessed the ability to planet bust and no Borg cube showed the ability to withstand their planet busting weapons even after months of fighting them. Their adaptive shields "...can't repel firepower of that magnitude."

dadudemon, you're assessment is correct - you cited evidence too which sometimes members here forget to point out. A Borg cube can adapt to Star Destroyer fire, but not a planet killer like the Death Star. But the Death Star can be assimilated if the Borg manage to seize control of the reactor core. Deck by deck slowly the Borg would advance.

That would be insane to see a Star Destroyer at transwarp flight - something the Borg only posses.

That wasn't why they couldn't adapt to 8472. It was the type of weapon, ie somewhat densely biological in nature, that confounded them, not their power level.

Unless there's some sort of obscure line I missed.

The Borg couldn't assimilate Species 8472 due to their highly advanced biological makeup, their super immune system would insta-kill the Borg nanites.

IIRC, Since their ships were essentially living entities that shared Species 8472 DNA structure, the Borg couldn't adapt/counter their weapons. Though the bioships had incredibly powerful weapons, one hit rocked Voyager. So it's likely a combination of the two factors, no resistance and incredibly powerful weapons.

Though later in the episode "Prey" do see one bioship having difficulty against a Hirogen ship.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That wasn't why they couldn't adapt to 8472. It was the type of weapon, ie somewhat densely biological in nature, that confounded them, not their power level.

Unless there's some sort of obscure line I missed.

I disagree. In that episode, a cube was absorbing the shots of 1 ship and then they teamed up (like when they destroyed a planet) and destroyed a cube.

Originally posted by Robtard
Though later in the episode "Prey" do see one bioship having difficulty against a Hirogen ship.

But the Hirogen are like Klingons...but smarter...and have had warp capability for thousands of years. So they were stupid advanced compared to other warp capable species.