JVA: Aquaman W/WH Vs Namor

No Trident, but this is Aquaman with water hand era.

vs

Aquaman.

Water hand AM was a heavy hitter. His strength was on or very close to namors. Plus the hand added alot of powers/ potential.

AM don't need the WH. AM wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
AM don't need the WH. AM wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
AM don't need the WH. AM wins.

Sans TP, I think he would need it.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Water hand AM was a heavy hitter. His strength was on or very close to namors. Plus the hand added alot of powers/ potential.

Physically he wasnt on namors level.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Physically he wasnt on namors level.

He was certainly faster but Namor had more consistent high strength feats and you could argue Namor was more durable.

Originally posted by zopzop
AM don't need the WH. AM wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Namor would trash arthur in a physical fight.

AHH I don't think so.

We are talking about the same Arthur who could

1. Smack Superboy around
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvVsuperboy2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12

2. Take hit's from Lobo
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvLobo1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=15

3. Take on a JLA that included WW and the Valdarian Gardner plus MMH. A WW blow that put him through a wall and across a city didn't even put him down.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvJLA2-Copy.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8
4. Tank being frozen Solid
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanV5034page12.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5
5. Tank plasma blasters
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanvplasmablaster1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=10
6. Tank SUSTAINED magic blasts
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblasts1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblasts2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblast3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
7. with Strength feats like Sub Diego where he lifted nearly 300 tons
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/aquamanstrength1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3

I could go on to show his speed how he dodges lasers and bullets with ease or the lightning of weather wizard, but there really isn't a point.

I could also show how he's used his TP to know when he was targeted and sense attacks or planned ones ( giving him a huge reaction advantage)

These are all pre Nu52 Aquaman ( that everyone thinks is so upgraded) from an era where they showed off his TP power more than his physical one. Where he has TP read Jonn Jonz, battled and defeated a dimensional entity, ripped white martians new ones or simply shut them down, mind raped another powerful TPer the backlash of which caused every living creature in the sea intense pain.

Add to all of this the healing powers of the water hand and any damage that is actually done to him can be voided almost instantly.

I'll grant that Namor has more consistency of his showings at that level but Arthur doesn't and never did need the water hand. It just made him OP.

Originally posted by comicfan11
He was certainly faster but Namor had more consistent high strength feats and you could argue Namor was more durable.

Yeah.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Namor would trash arthur in a physical fight.

"Trash" is too strong a word, tbh.

Originally posted by beatboks
AHH I don't think so.

We are talking about the same Arthur who could

1. Smack Superboy around
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvVsuperboy2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12

2. Take hit's from Lobo
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvLobo1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=15

3. Take on a JLA that included WW and the Valdarian Gardner plus MMH. A WW blow that put him through a wall and across a city didn't even put him down.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanvJLA2-Copy.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8
4. Tank being frozen Solid
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/AquamanV5034page12.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5
5. Tank plasma blasters
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanvplasmablaster1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=10
6. Tank SUSTAINED magic blasts
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblasts1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblasts2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/Aquamanenduresmagicblast3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
7. with Strength feats like Sub Diego where he lifted nearly 300 tons
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Aquaman/aquamanstrength1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3

I could go on to show his speed how he dodges lasers and bullets with ease or the lightning of weather wizard, but there really isn't a point.

I could also show how he's used his TP to know when he was targeted and sense attacks or planned ones ( giving him a huge reaction advantage)

These are all pre Nu52 Aquaman ( that everyone thinks is so upgraded) from an era where they showed off his TP power more than his physical one. Where he has TP read Jonn Jonz, battled and defeated a dimensional entity, ripped white martians new ones or simply shut them down, mind raped another powerful TPer the backlash of which caused every living creature in the sea intense pain.

Add to all of this the healing powers of the water hand and any damage that is actually done to him can be voided almost instantly.

I'll grant that Namor has more consistency of his showings at that level but Arthur doesn't and never did need the water hand. It just made him OP.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah.

"Trash" is too strong a word, tbh.

Namor.

Didn't Aquaman have the power to dehydrate people?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Aquaman have the power to dehydrate people?

bump

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Aquaman have the power to dehydrate people?

Apart from that the Waterhand could also reach into another character and mess them from within.
And of course control water.

Even without the water hand though Aquaman has this.
Apart from him being considerably faster than Namor, AQ could control even the smallest living sea organisms.
He beat one opponent by controlling the plankton in the water that he breathed and totally wrecked him (issue 23 I believe from the Pfeifer run)

Unless Namor doesn't breath water, AQ takes this.

Originally posted by comicfan11
Apart from that the Waterhand could also reach into another character and mess them from within.
And of course control water.

Even without the water hand though Aquaman has this.
Apart from him being considerably faster than Namor, AQ could control even the smallest living sea organisms.
He beat one opponent by controlling the plankton in the water that he breathed and totally wrecked him (issue 23 I believe from the Pfeifer run)

Unless Namor doesn't breath water, AQ takes this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Arthur isn't considerably faster than Namor. That's straight up false. Namor has reacted to things travelling at light speed.

No it's the truth.
Aquaman has much better speed feats.

Originally posted by comicfan11
No it's the truth.
Aquaman has much better speed feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like what?

Like also dodging light speed attacks and having better quantifiable feats.

Namor's best one's I know are doing 400 knots vs Iron Man in recent years.
And he was also confirmed as slower than Marina (due to her body not creating any friction) and Marina's top speed was around 800 knots or something.

Aquaman has casually done 1000 knots.
And that is not even remotely close Aquaman's best feat.