Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
They beat up Thor while the rest are a non-factor 😐Granted the Joutenheim Blast could do considerable amounts of damage. 5 nuke tanking monsters would be too much IMO.
Again, the Kaiju's are not fast enough to tag either Thor or IM. How come everybody repeatedly ignores this? If Thor lands in the back of one Kaiju, say right behind it's shoulder blades, how does the kaiju get to him then? Thor can then proceed to jotunheim blast that Kaiju as much as he wants.
Originally posted by ares834
I'm almost baffled people think the Avengers win this.And to give the Avengers an edge people are saying Tony is going to invent laser swords... WTF.
That was an option, not necessary for the Avengers to win. Like I said repeatedly, Chow's men were able to chop up Kaiju remains using standard cutting tools. Give the same cutting tools to someone with Thor's or Hulk's strength and imagine what they can do to a Kaiju.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Again, the Kaiju's are not fast enough to tag either Thor or IM. How come everybody repeatedly ignores this? If Thor lands in the back of one Kaiju, say right behind it's shoulder blades, how does the kaiju get to him then? Thor can then proceed to jotunheim blast that Kaiju as much as he wants.
Still not seeing how Iron Man would do anything. Aside from repulsor blast and lasers there isn't much he has to offer. I mean it did take 6 days of non-stop bombardment to take out a Class 1 conventionally. Even though Iron Man's tech is a cut above the rest it still won't help much.
I could see Thor taking out one at least before the four others beat him up. Not saying that he isn't powerful but he wouldn't hurt them fast enough before additional Kaiju gang up on him.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Still not seeing how Iron Man would do anything. Aside from repulsor blast and lasers there isn't much he has to offer. I mean it did take 6 days of non-stop bombardment to take out a Class 1 conventionally. Even though Iron Man's tech is a cut above the rest it still won't help much.I could see Thor taking out one at least before the four others beat him up. Not saying that he isn't powerful but he wouldn't hurt them fast enough before additional Kaiju gang up on him.
Even if they do gang up on Thor, then he just flies away. Duck, avoid, land on another Kaiju, jotunheim smash. Rinse and repeat. Heck just hover in the air and blast them from there. It's not like he's just going to sit there and allow himself to get squashed.
The Kaiju looked especially tough against concussive force like bombs and missiles. Energy based weapons like the plasma cannon did penetrate it, though it takes repeated blasts to put it down. So maybe IM's repulsors can work, probably his lasers. Though I'm not sure how effective they will be. I still think they should resort to cutting weapons though, as these seem to be the most effective against the kaiju.
The biggest threat to the Avengers in this fight isn't the Kaiju, it's sheer exhaustion. Thor and Hulk can hurt the Kaiju, but I'm not sure how long it will take for them to take one down. But as long as they play it smart then the Kaiju shouldn't be able to touch them.
Iron Man's chest blast will be enough to do major damage to a Kaiju.
Also, Iron Man's armor piercing round will one shot any Kaiju.
Lastly, Thor and Hulk can just tank the beatings from the Kaiju while Tony flies back to reload is armor piercing rounds.
Theeeee eeeend.
The Kaiju are slow. They are soft. And they are fleshy. Just because one of them survived a nuke with heavy damage, does not mean they are invulnerable. All that proved is part of it's flesh would vape just as easily as any other colossal animal during a nuclear blast. It had the benefit of an ocean to dampen the vaporization effect of the blast. As we saw, the area around the portal was largely unaffected by the nuke which tells me the movie makers either intended for that nuke to be stupid weak or they just do not have a scale idea for a 1.2 megaton nuke.
Let's go with the first: it was just the makers not realizing how weak they made their nuke look.
The Kaiju are still fleshy beings that can be cut up with regular ol' knives and sold on a black market. Nuke or not, Stark can solo as long as he stays out of range.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Where are people getting Thor's speed from? He wasn't that fast in either movie.
He wasn't that fast, but still way faster than any Kaiju. Even Hulk is faster than a Kaiju, a lot faster. Thor's reaction speed IS faster than both IM and Hulk, as seen in how he mostly dodges their punches and hits. His flight speed may not be as impressive as IM's but it is still pretty impressive considering what we saw in his movie. Now watch how fast he flies, and tell me that a Kaiju is fast enough to catch that?
Thor may not have Superman's speed feats but he really doesn't need them considering that Kaiju are actually pretty slow. The Jaegers looked very slow but they had no trouble beating the Kaijus to the punch.
On the subject of cutting the corpses of the Kaiju this is fairly interesting: Clicky.
Basically, after death the Kaiju's body quickly decays and "self destroy".
All in all, I'm not convinced Thor's hammer blows are going to do much as, once again, the Kaigu were tanking getting hit by tankers used as baseball bats.
Originally posted by ares834
On the subject of cutting the corpses of the Kaiju this is fairly interesting: Clicky.Basically, after death the Kaiju's body quickly decays and "self destroy".
All in all, I'm not convinced Thor's hammer blows are going to do much as, once again, the Kaigu were tanking getting hit by tankers used as baseball bats.
Well I agree that the hammer blows won't do much, neither will Hulk's fists. It's Thor's lightning strikes that I'm banking on.
Regarding the article you mentioned, it's interesting and yet it contradicts what we see in the movie. If the kaiju are supposed to self destruct, then why are there loads of their remains being harvested? Sure Chow and his men ice it, but they're also cutting into it already even before freezing it.
Originally posted by ares834
On the subject of cutting the corpses of the Kaiju this is fairly interesting: Clicky.
And yet, an entire subplot of the film is based entirely around quickly harvesting and preserving Kaiju bodies. 🙂
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well I agree that the hammer blows won't do much, neither will Hulk's fists. It's Thor's lightning strikes that I'm banking on.Regarding the article you mentioned, it's interesting and yet it contradicts what we see in the movie. If the kaiju are supposed to self destruct, then why are there loads of their remains being harvested? Sure Chow and his men ice it, but they're also cutting into it already even before freezing it.
Originally posted by dadudemonThe bodies were decomposing quickly, that was why Charlie had to go see Clay Morrow. Then Clay explains how he preserves them.
And yet, an entire subplot of the film is based entirely around quickly harvesting and preserving Kaiju bodies. 🙂
Originally posted by FrothByteBy size they must be clicking in at 200mph. Only recall IMs flight speed being above this (well above), but the others? Maybe Thor if I could see that scene.
He wasn't that fast, but still way faster than any Kaiju. Even Hulk is faster than a Kaiju, a lot faster. Thor's reaction speed IS faster than both IM and Hulk, as seen in how he mostly dodges their punches and hits. His flight speed may not be as impressive as IM's but it is still pretty impressive considering what we saw in his movie. Now watch how fast he flies, and tell me that a Kaiju is fast enough to catch that?Thor may not have Superman's speed feats but he really doesn't need them considering that Kaiju are actually pretty slow. The Jaegers looked very slow but they had no trouble beating the Kaijus to the punch.
Originally posted by BloodRain
By size they must be clicking in at 200mph. Only recall IMs flight speed being above this (well above), but the others? Maybe Thor if I could see that scene.
200 mph? Maybe running speed, yes. But quickness and reflex? I don't think so. They won't be racing against IM and Thor. They're trying to catch and swat them out of the air. And so far they have shown no such quickness to be able to do that.
Watch the Thor movie in that scene where he flies and smashes into the monster for his flight speed.
Originally posted by FrothByteIf it was only running speed the Jaegers could react. Its both though. They were throwing fists, claws, tails and taking less than a sec to cover large distances. Being 260ft tall makes them fast in comparison.
200 mph? Maybe running speed, yes. But quickness and reflex? I don't think so. They won't be racing against IM and Thor. They're trying to catch and swat them out of the air. And so far they have shown no such quickness to be able to do that.Watch the Thor movie in that scene where he flies and smashes into the monster for his flight speed.