What is an "adult"?

Started by MF DELPH2 pages

I think an adult would be a person of the age and capacity to care for, provide for, and produce offspring, as well as apply critical thinking and take responsibility/liability for their own and their offspring's actions (as some mental conditions can render an individual of post adolescent age with impaired, 'child like' reasoning, they would only "physically" be mature/an adult, but still require guardianship by another).

As a rule of thumb myself, if a person hasn't completed a certain level of education (high school) due to their age and there parent is still their guardian I do not consider them an adult. I realize that in some circumstances people that are 11-17 have been tried as adults for their actions, but I wouldn't myself consider them adults.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Was it Sol Valentine?

/ is the only 14 year old I've ever known on KMC

No, not him. But he is a good choice. Little dude was smarter than most adults and one of the most socially adept people I've ever known. I talk to him every now and again on Facebook.

As an example, remember when you "taught" me the word Fooota (misspelled it because I am at work)? Well, he was the one who explained it to me. 😐 Not kidding. And he did it as tastefully as possible which is weird due to the subject.

Originally posted by Mindship
What is an adult?
- Biologically/sexually mature body.
- Capable of formal operational thinking ("abstract"/"conceptual"😉.
- Can delay gratification (put others' needs first).
- Can recognize that "results" matter, not making excuses, when it comes to meeting expectations. Ie, takes responsibility for one's own actions.
- Has perspective on one's own life, a "felt-sense" of one's own personal history.

If you exclude the first bullet point, some people less than 12 would fit your definitions. Though, I think those are rare.

I think your 3rd bullet point is quite important. IMO, it is one of the highest forms of human sociability.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I think an adult would be a person of the age and capacity to care for, provide for, and produce offspring, as well as apply critical thinking and take responsibility/liability for their own and their offspring's actions (as some mental conditions can render an individual of post adolescent age with impaired, 'child like' reasoning, they would only "physically" be mature/an adult, but still require guardianship by another).

The "care for" part is probably paramount in your definition.

Many people can produce offspring...so I would agree that properly caring for offspring is an important trait for an "adult".

Originally posted by dadudemon
If you exclude the first bullet point, some people less than 12 would fit your definitions. Though, I think those are rare.
Indeed. These would be quite "mature" and probably very intelligent children.

On the other side of the coin, there are lots of people, say, 30+ years of age, who's behavior may best be described as "juvenille" **egcoughUSCongresscough**

Originally posted by Mindship
On the other side of the coin, there are lots of people, say, 30+ years of age, who's behavior may best be described as "juvenille" **egcoughUSCongresscough**

I would, stoically, say that they also do not fit other portions of your definitions too.

The moment I realised I was an adult was when I noticed that when I woke up in the morning and would rather watch the news than watch cartoons.

was gonna say when you stop laughing at farts but I'll never stop laughing at farts.

Originally posted by BackFire
Sorry, DDM, you don't get to micromanage a thread just because you started it, that's a moderator's job. If you feel a rule was broken in a thread report the post. Don't play moderator. But I'll save you the trouble, no rule was broken here.

Then what is the thread for? He just just asked a guy to stay on topic. There is a subject to each thread, right? the other guy clearly strayed from the subject or just didn't understand the question. Perhaps he wanted to be an ass, either way, i think, DD was just trying to get a relevant response to his question.

Just curious as to what he was micromanaging. 😕

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Just curious as to what he was micromanaging. 😕
Attempting to enforce rules when enforcement is not required because no rule was actually broken, regardless of his feelings telling him they were. "dictate terms" is better suited than "micromanage" but the sentiment of the rebuke is the same.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Attempting to enforce rules when enforcement is not required because no rule was actually broken, regardless of his feelings telling him they were. "dictate terms" is better suited than "micromanage" but the sentiment of the rebuke is the same.

It is not up for debate. Regardless of whether or not you are wrong about what you posted above, it doesn't matter: I was wrong. Regardless of whether or not it is common internet courtesy to stay on topic, I was wrong. Regardless of whether or not multiple in the thread were able to easily discuss the opening post, on topic, it doesn't matter: I was wrong.

I've admitted I was wrong. Can we move on and not rehash the butthurt?

Edit - Lemme be clear that the "butthurt" is my own butthurt because I was clearly wrong for asking posters to stay on topic in the thread I created. Only a moderator can ask a person to stay on topic...on KMC.

I like turtles.

You're an adult when you're economically independent and there should probably be some standard in regards to behavior, but I'm too tired to think of one.

18 years old. Ppl. Mature physically, mentally, & emotionally differently based on genes so lets keep it at 18 years old.

Unless you want to buy alcohol.

18 yr olds can buy alcohol in Europe

Originally posted by Major_Lexington
18 yr olds can buy alcohol in Europe
'Murica, b*tch.

Originally posted by Astner
You're an adult when you're economically independent and there should probably be some standard in regards to behavior, but I'm too tired to think of one.

How do you define economically independent though? What about people on government benefits? And if those don't count, why do people count that rely on government healthcare, public streets, public education, etc.? What about couples that can only be "economically independent" by pooling their resources together. What about a stay at home dad that is supported by his husband? What about a 50 year old with a trust fund? What about a 70 year old who is dependent on their children? What about a beggar on the street who only survives on charity?

If you are not sure where I'm going with this let me spell it out: You put forth a terrible, terrible definition of adulthood.

lol

An animal bound by the law

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you define economically independent though? What about people on government benefits? And if those don't count, why do people count that rely on government healthcare, public streets, public education, etc.? What about couples that can only be "economically independent" by pooling their resources together. What about a stay at home dad that is supported by his husband? What about a 50 year old with a trust fund? What about a 70 year old who is dependent on their children? What about a beggar on the street who only survives on charity?

If you are not sure where I'm going with this let me spell it out: You put forth a terrible, terrible definition of adulthood.

Yeah, pretty sure it means not having to rely on your guardians for your primary needs. (Food, shelter, utilities)

In fact, your post was very Astner-ish. uhuh

He probably meant "financially indepedent"?

Originally posted by dadudemon
He probably meant "financially indepedent"?
A wizard should know better.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, pretty sure it means not having to rely on your guardians for your primary needs. (Food, shelter, utilities)

In which case the 70-year-old supported by her kids is a child?