The Great Evil Beast & COIE AM Vs Marvel Team

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure how the fact that he was inactive means anything...

As for why he hasn't appeared, that's because he combined with the Presence and the two become a new being that is still called the Presence.

.......the fact that he was inactive while the presence was active proves who is superior......come on.

that's wrong because we actually see after they've merged (which they did in swamp thing v2 #50) that they're 2 separate beings:

http://i.imgur.com/XvzJpSW.jpg

after that ^ presence has had dozens of appearances while GEB never appeared.

Originally posted by ares834

Edit: BTW, GEB has made other apperances.

like???

btw you've contradicted yourself here, you said he didn't appear because he merged with the presence and now you're telling me that he does have other appearances? id like you to reference issues.

How does the fact that it was basically sleeping make it inferior?

Or how does the fact that he makes fewer appearances inferior?

The comic made it crystal clear the two are equal and that their battle would rage for all eternity.

GEB makes one other appearance that I am aware of when he shows the Spectre visions of Hell and Heaven.

Originally posted by ares834
How does the fact that it was basically sleeping make it inferior?

Or how does the fact that he makes fewer appearances inferior?

The comic made it crystal clear the two are equal and that their battle would rage for all eternity.

GEB makes one other appearance that I am aware of when he shows the Spectre visions of Hell and Heaven.

the GEB required a bird to summon it at the end of issue 49, only then he became active again:

http://i.imgur.com/1xpinSK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VA8Poll.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5KaiApo.jpg

while in presence's case, he doesn't need an external force to be active.

you've missed the point.......presence has appearances after he's supposedly merged with the great evil beast, which indicates that the GEB is contained while the presence reigns supreme.

the comic also made it crystal clear that GEB wasn't even aware of his purpose, he didn't even know what is evil for, and GEB and presence didn't even fight.

never happened, unless you can reference an issue

Like others have saod, 2 different sides but same coin

^ Exactly. The Presence is light and GEB is Darkness.

Still not sure what the problem is that the GEB is inactive makes him inferior.

Their endless "battle" is metaphorical.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/etriganvsgeb2.jpg

He makes an appearance in The Demon 51:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4382/ag220000kf2.jpg

a bird was required to make him active, d'you think the presence possesses such a limitation?

considering GEB wasn't even aware of its purpose and was still learning it, i doubt there was a "metaphorical" battle between them.

it's a retelling, im asking when did he appear after he supposedly merged (apart from swamp thing v2 76)???

you said he showed spectre heaven and hell? when was this?

He was for all intents sleeping. That's not some limitation on his power.

Except, that's exactly what the scan says. Darkness vs light, good vs evil, etc.

It's not a retelling. Notice it says this is "once the conflict ended".

Don't remember where it was. Which is why I showed the other.

sleeping? no he was inactive and unaware of his purpose, that much was crystal clear. the presence has no such limitation.

it's a retelling, the demon issue was written in 1994 while the swamp thing issues where it happened was in 1986, hence the almost 10 years ago part. we see fate, swamp thing, spectre all there, despite the fact that they have nothing to do with the issue itslef.

well, you gotta remember because this is clearly a retelling.

I'm still curious why you think him being inactive makes him inferior. You haven't given a single reason as of yet, especially since the comic makes it clear the GEB is the Presence's opposite.

Did you not read the scan at all? It says "And once the conflict ended (the battle in ST), it settled itself on the plains beyond Gorian's Deep"...

In other words, GEB still exists after the war.

alright, ill repeat this for the 10th time: IT REQUIRED A BIRD WITH A PERL TO MAKE HIM ACTIVE.

in case you didn't see the scan i posted before here it is again:

it's from swamp thing v2 #76 which is 26 issues after his original portrayal:

http://i.imgur.com/XvzJpSW.jpg

this indicates that the great evil beast is contained, while the presence reigns supreme, in case you didn't read my previous post, here it is again:

Originally posted by operator616
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you've missed the point.......presence has appearances after he's supposedly merged with the great evil beast, which indicates that the GEB is contained while the presence reigns supreme.
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that's why im curious to see GEB showing the spectre heaven and hell, did you remember where that was??

Stay on topic guys

Except, the Presence doesn't reign supreme. That scan alone shows that saying "light and darkness, balance holding" and with the "arm wrestling match" being a tie.

that's my point, after that incident, we don't see great evil beast at all, but we do see the presence, and the only logical explanation to this is that GEB is contained/sealed away, that's why after that the presence has been stated to be everything (be it good or evil), and surpasses everyone

1999:

http://i.imgur.com/KnJu0Sl.jpg

2001:

http://i.imgur.com/QXTbo3r.jpg

2013:

http://i.imgur.com/qGln3ys.jpg

i have more, this should be enough.

That's not a logical conclusion at all. The scan I posted says he went to hell afterwards. The fact that he doesn't make another appearance does not mean he was contained in anyway.