Obi-Wan Kenobi vs The Barsen'thor

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Obi-Wan Kenobi vs The Barsen'thor

I'd say the Barsen'thor has a strong advantage--What's your guys' thoughts?

I agree. I don't think Obi-Wan is an aggressive enough lightsaber duelist to overwhelm the Barsen'thor with lightsabers before his opponent Force pwns him.

But how agressive is the Barsen'thor in Force Attacks? I can't recall a lightsider ever really ragdolling anyone. On fair ground what would the Barsen'thor use to overwhelm Kenobi?

The Jedi Path and the Swtor Codex both confirm that Consular's use Telekinesis (and other powers) to subdue opponents and wreck shit. The Barsen'thor isn't a pussy like Maul either. She wouldn't just throw Kenobi against a wall she'd smash him with a boulder or break his legs or something.

The codex entry for Jedi Sages mentions 'moving massive waves of energy that tear apart their enemies' for example.

Yeah, that's about what I expected. The Barsen'thor is surely one of the most talented Jedi in the mythos.

How do you think the Barsen'thor would fare against Revan?

Well Revan has better lightsaber feats and extremely good defensive Force powers. So even though the Barsen'thor probably has better offensive Force powers, I'm not sure if they could beat Revan with them.

The Barsen'thor likely takes this.

That said about Revan, the Barsen'thor's feat of beating a Vivicar amped by siphoning power from hundreds of Jedi Masters, while weakened from the shielding technique is still one of the top feats of any Jedi imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That said about Revan, the Barsen'thor's feat of beating a Vivicar amped by siphoning power from hundreds of Jedi Masters, while weakened from the shielding technique is still one of the top feats of any Jedi imo.

Source on hundreds? And even if so, considering that Emperor Vitiate is a being made of thousands of Sith Lords, HoT's feat is still superior.

Vivicar mentions that his plague siphons power from its victims, all of which are Jedi Masters. Prior to this its believed that he only infected 6 people, yet after you defeat him he warns that if you kill him then those infected with the plague, which he claims to be hundreds of Jedi Masters, will also die. You can say that he's lying but sure enough if you do kill him you're informed seconds later that theres been reports of dozens, perhaps hundreds of Masters that have indeed died, confirming Vivicars story. Thus he was siphoning power from up to hundreds of Jedi Masters at the time the Barsen'thor defeats him.

Barsen'thor will eliminate Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Vivicar mentions that his plague siphons power from its victims, all of which are Jedi Masters. Prior to this its believed that he only infected 6 people, yet after you defeat him he warns that if you kill him then those infected with the plague, which he claims to be [b]hundreds of Jedi Masters, will also die. You can say that he's lying but sure enough if you do kill him you're informed seconds later that theres been reports of dozens, perhaps hundreds of Masters that have indeed died, confirming Vivicars story. Thus he was siphoning power from up to hundreds of Jedi Masters at the time the Barsen'thor defeats him. [/B]

Oh I am aware of that, I just thought that perhaps the sourcebook said something more on that. Even if it was only dozens its still an amazing feat for a Barsen'thor only one third through the story.

Also we now know from the Makeb Story that the events of the Second Great War take place over the course of several years based on Marr's statement 'The Emperor has not spoken to the council for many years'. Giving the Barsen'thor years of experience (and power).

I doubt it was only dozens. Master Syo contacts you extremely quickly after you kill Vivicar to tell you about the deaths, so its highly unlikely he'd have heard about all of them at that point. That he even mentions that it could be hundreds strongly indicates that Vivicar was telling the truth imo.

He also mentions that Vivicar's defeat/death creates a 'massive shift in the Force' indicating that the effects of it were enormous.

Isn't it indicated that the Emperor has retreated for quite some time before Swtor even begins? Although yeah, I believe the game does take place across a year or two.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I doubt it was only dozens. Master Syo contacts you extremely quickly after you kill Vivicar to tell you about the deaths, so its highly unlikely he'd have heard about all of them at that point. That he even mentions that it could be hundreds strongly indicates that Vivicar was telling the truth imo.

He also mentions that Vivicar's defeat/death creates a 'massive shift in the Force' indicating that the effects of it were enormous.

Isn't it indicated that the Emperor has retreated for quite some time before Swtor even begins? Although yeah, I believe the game does take place across a year or two.

I'd imagine that the Emperor orders the Dark Council to resume the war given the Exile's statement 'The Emperor makes his final war'. Furthermore I doubt the Dark Council would directly disobey his command for peace, even Veterans like Marr and Ravage know not to question their ultimate master.