Curry's tourney Match 2; Digi vs Abhi

abhilegend wrote on Jul 23rd, 2013 04:09 PM:

First let me introduce Abomination. Who better to tell about him than the strongest one there is aka hulk himself

http://i41.tinypic.com/fyfn1s.jpg

He’s the strongest foe Hulk has ever fought. He’s initially nearly killed hulk in a four punches

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination01TTA090.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination03.jpg

Then he had his strength halved by Bruce Banner draining him. He still battled hulk to a near double KO later.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination04a137.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination05a.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination08.jpg

He had his strength restored by Galaxy master which he retains ever since and nearly knocks out Hulk again until Hulk famously becomes several times stronger

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination25270.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination26.jpg

Then he had his fight with Gray Hulk whose strength multiplied several times and who was getting even stronger as usual but Abomination was still stronger than him and beat the shit out of him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16306949/grayhulkamp2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16306932/grayhulkamp.jpg.html

Suffice to say Abomination is a being much stronger than an angry hulk and one hulk can only beat by becoming angry like hell. That places him above people like Thor in strength who only beat him when he was depowered and even then with a sudden blow that Abomination didn’t saw coming due to being mind-controlled.

Now we have Captain Britain who is strong enough to overpower and kill a super-skrull with the powers of Champions (Hercules, Ghost Rider, Angel, Iceman)

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/mi13_01a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/mi13_01b.jpg

Behead a super-skrull with the power of Hyperion with punches

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/mi13_01d.jpg

And then goes toe to toe with Fury himself in a battle whose shockwaves destroy the Starlight Citadel.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05e.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05f.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05g.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05h.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05i.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/dbts05j.jpg

Starlight citadel is big enough to store planets and still have room to spare

If someone thinks it’s the only time Cap has fought Fury or its an outlier, here is a weaker cap taking a beating from the original and much stronger Fury for several pages

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11d.jpg

So its feasible that an upgraded Cap can fight a weaker Fury and hold his own.

Now to explain why I didn’t use prep time to do anything or used Prometheus. Frankly its not needed. Here is why.
Dark Angel’s armor doesn’t grant her powers, it acts as an inhibitor to her powers which are embedded in her body.

And as according to the tourney rules, mind draft only gives you access to equipment and not the powers of character, her armor is even more useless than Ultimo’s loincloth in granting this amalgam any powers. He can look pretty though. There goes Dark Angel.

Now turn to Havok, he is utterly useless against this combo too. Captain Britain has utterly no sold his blasts.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

Havok’s energy absorption is useless too as Cap’s force-field blocks energy draining

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/exc100b.jpg

That leaves his force-fields and I doubt they can stand to the strength of Superchild. There goes Havok.

Now to big ass Ultimo. Dude is nigh-invulnerable, superstrong, 100 feet tall robot, blah, blah, blah. Meet Armory

One shot which blows through his torso clean off and there he goes. I doubt he can take punches from Abomination+Captain Britain combo. Frankly all Superchild has to do here is to fly at mach 10 which he can obviously do as he flies here at escape velocity (mach 34)

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_14a.jpg

And punch clean through Ultimo to make him fall and then hypnotize the human brain to not make a move using Prometheus’ helmet and talking

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16307180/JLA_16_pg16.JPG.html

That is all.

Digi wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 06:49 AM:

Digi Match #1 Writeup

Thanks to curry and the judges, good luck to abhilegend, and let’s do this!

My Team
- Ultimo (Body)
- Dark Angel (Mind/Gear)
- Havok (Powers)

General Strategy & Points

I. Ultimo is probably the biggest, most badass body pick in the tourney. He can no-sell Iron Man in a way that few, if any, others can at high meta. Abhi is working on an amp, but unless it's HUGE, I’m going to crush him like a fly.

II. Havok is already probably the most powerful energy projection in the tourney. And I’m going to amp him beyond what we’ve ever seen from him in a comic (yes, including the Vulcan feat). His output alone is going to be at herald-busting levels.

III. Abhi is going to try to pants me with some clever tech from Prometheus’s base of operations. Without knowing exactly what he’ll be bringing, I’ll have to wait to post counter-arguments. However, I already have numerous ample defenses in place, detailed in the next point.

IV. My counter to any tech is going to be two-fold – overpowering him and outsmarting him. The omnipresent energy output of Havok will melt anything within a half mile radius of me. And Dark Angel is an unbelievable swiss army knife of powers that I plan on utilizing in various ways throughout the tourney. Again, discretion is more strategic until I know his exact plan, but she’ll make life a living hell for abhi’s team.

V. I enjoy having the initiative in matches. It allows me to dictate terms of engagement, and I hope judges will take this into consideration when determining whose version of the fight is most correct. In this match, to accomplish this, I’ll be phased and invisible to start the match, courtesy of Dark Angel.

Ultimo

A couple appetizers of Ultimo’s power:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6909/n0ho.jpg
or
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8297/iz2m.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1045/ggf5.jpg
Note how he no-sells Tony (he can do this with multiple high metas all at once, as well). Also note how he bats Tony MILES away in the latter scans.

There’s lots more of this, which I’ll roll out as needed. I’m curious to see if Abhi can even approach this level of physical domination. If not, it will be impossible to meaningfully hurt me.

Lord Havok

Havok absorbs ambient cosmic energy:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9209/2zku.jpg
or
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/919/cot8.jpg

The Fabric of the Universe that comprises Dark Angel’s powers IS cosmic energy. As in, an endless source of the stuff that amps Havok to impossible levels.
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5930/x9ik.jpg
…it’s referred to as cosmic energy several times. I can provide more as needed.

And here’s another (very powerful) being similarly drinking of her power, letting it amp him to unimaginable levels:
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6172/atcw.jpg
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6199/zs3v.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8726/6ki6.jpg

And I hope we all remember what Havok can do with that level of power:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3311/hhv5.jpg
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5799/33nm.jpg
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3305/s1zz.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5418/ijq6.jpg
And if anyone lacks context, that’s Vulcan, the Omega level mutant energy manipulator who was matching mid heralds, getting taken out by Havok.

After a similar amp, here’s him taking it to Vulcan again:
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6882/jzmp.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3102/dmng.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5371/u3ia.jpg

And those amps are nothing compared to what I can feed him via Dark Angel’s power.

With this power constantly pouring into Havok’s power set, I can absorb, overpower, or deflect any energy produced, destroy any shielding, and I’ll be able to melt city-sized areas as needed, or smaller areas to fry my opponent or his equipment.

Tech-mate

Get used to the puns in section titles. I <3 them.

Here’s Havok melting a car with ease:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4008/5pmy.jpg
Ok, it’s just cars, no big deal. So here’s him doing the same to something he surmises is adamantium:
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8817/rya7.jpg
And those are at normal levels. I’m…what do we want to put it at? 2x normal? 5x? 10x? I’ll let the judges decide.

Point is, the wave of energy emanating from me any time I’m in combat will destroy anything he has brought or built, as well as any defenses they may have built in. He probably has delusions of busting inside Ultimo and planting something, or even coming near me and having the chance to do anything of worth. It’ll never happen.

Roll for Initiative

Invisibility:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2811/o288.jpg
…I also have a scan of the invisibility working on no less than Mephisto, if needed.

I’ll also have us phased to begin the match:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/340/t75v.jpg

And if he wants to try to do a localized attack or lock onto me somehow, I will teleport to regain initiative:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4777/t5f2.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1085/kqk.jpg
…note that she was nowhere near them when she ported. Her range is quite long.

So here’s something fun…can he detect me while invisible and phased? Can he block a teleport next to him while I crush his face into the ground and unleash a city-busting energy blast from my palm? If not, I just sneak up behind him and phase my fist into his heart, or push his heart out the other side with a concentrated blast of energy. End of the match, and you can ignore all the overpowering stuff (but don’t, because it’s cool too).

He can’t possibly have answers to all these tactics. I have too many ways of beating him.

Dark Angel
Since the rules are more unique than usual in this tourney, a brief rundown of Dark Angel.

Her powers derive from her equipment. Namely, the “Fabric of the Universe” that envelopes her, and the armor than allows her to channel its power into various functions. Per the drafts, and having her as a mind pick, I get access to these, and thus her entire power set. This was reviewed and approved by curryman. There is no controversy surrounding it, but I say this only as a PSA for judges who might be initially confused about the nature of her powers.

Notes on Abhilegend

Abhi’s picks seem a bit unintuitive, but it probably just means he’s planning something. Prometheus will bring some random tech, and he'll likely attempt to amp Britain somehow. A bit one-dimensional, easily counterable, even if I have to make some adjustements. Even if I'm wrong with that prediction, I have no doubt my general tactics will be enough to deal with any mesh on his end.

Second, a note on equipment: While he’ll no doubt take some things Prometheus has used in the past, this tactic is not intended for specialty one-off items. Anything that could reasonably be considered standard for Prometheus’s base is fine. But, say, some random Superman-busting trinket that was only available for an issue or two is not. Not only would it not be standard, but anything obviously > high meta is banned (or else we’d have Reed running around with an Ultimate Nullifier in each match, or something similar). Judges, use your discretion, and talk to curryman if you have questions. He’ll be happy to confirm this. Anything that is not immediately attainable, standard, or is > high meta, should all be questioned in your rulings.

Conclusion

I can subtlety destroy him without so much as a single offensive attack. Or I can annihilate the entire battlefield effortlessly while preventing him from getting within striking distance of me. And if he does engage me normally, I have a 500-foot engine of destruction that can absorb his energy or flatten him effortlessly.

I deliberately pushed the tourney limits with each of my picks, and have considerably amped myself as well. For anyone, abhi included, it's an uphill battle to close the gigantic power gap between our picks. And any tricky stuff, I can either counter or do better, thanks to a number of different powers.

I do have more up my sleeve. But I can’t reveal everything at once. No fun in that. Judges, thanks again, and stay tuned.

Concluding Entertainment
Now, for your entertainment, here’s a video of my guys. The music is done by me. It’s the Avengers Movie theme, and I play all four parts of the arrangement on my violin (and later spliced them together into the final piece). Watch it on Youtube with full-screen (and HD) for the best affect. Enjoy!

YouTube video

I have more if people like it. 😉

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Digi Post #1

It seems I get to offer the first rebuttal. Abhi, cheers, it's been a while since we've had a tourney. Let's enjoy it.

Wings of an Angel

Let's first nip this Dark Angel nonsense in the bud. Curry reviewed everything and explicitly allowed the Fabric of the Universe as gear. Twice. I can post them if needed, or probably bring him in here to make a ruling (again). It won't go well for you, and it will appear as though I've gained some momentum. Let me know if you want to continue to pursue it, and I'll respond accordingly.

But suffice it to say, I wouldn't have drafted her if I didn't have access to her powers, and if I hadn't confirmed that beforehand. Judges, I have access to the Fabric of the Universe and the armor that channels it. It was discussed, reviewed, and approved. End of story.

Here's a scan of refutation, if needed:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5069/gymn.jpg
Wherein we learn that the Fabric has the "Power of Angels." DA has no inherent powers herself. After that whole debacle in the main discussion thread, where we specifically talked about gear and the Fabric as part of it, here's curry:

Originally posted by curryman
Aquaman and Dark Angel are a-ok.

...that was in direct reference to her full powers as gear. And again, I have another quote more explicitly referencing gear if needed. Abhi, just drop this. It's not debate, it's tedium that's already been decided.

Bringing a Bazooka to a Nerf Fight

Let's talk about Abhi's strategy here for a second.

He amalgamated Abom and Britain. I was expecting some sort of complimentary powers, a mesh or amp, anything, something. What we got is nothing. We have two base level bricks stacked on one another. Woo?

The other disappointment was Prometheus. His writeup contained exactly one scan of Prometheus, and it was...hypnotism? Against a phased, teleporting, telepathic character, who is also an alien robot that is hundreds of feet tall. Here's what Dark Angel thinks of this nonsense:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3743/kbub.jpg

As such, we have a flying brick, and some useless trickery from Prometheus. Ultimo might be able to take them on his own. And that's before amping his strength via Havok's power:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5149/zsxy.jpg
or more specifically, this:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1416/5ejq.jpg
And that's also before the incomprehensible upgrade I've given Havok via Angel's suit.

Seriously, I can behead his guy with a wave of my plasma-amped metallic pimp hand. I dominate his team in every phase of the game. Try harder.

Meet Armory...??

Hi Armory. You're not in the tournament. What the **** does that scan have to do with our match?

I can absorb energy, phase through it, teleport around it, overpower it, or straight-up tank anything you can dish out. Btw, here's an absorption feat that's going to silence any doubt:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/644/20hv.jpg

But that whole Armory scan left a bad taste in my mouth. Here's some more feats of Ultimo tanking attacks that are > anything Abhi is bringing to bear in this fight:
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/622/6sxb.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/2844/mtce.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/9561/h9uf.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/9452/6ll5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/7186/eo71.jpg

Compare & Contrast

Mach 10 is the speed cap for the tourney, and it's a bit of a joke. I don't have an exact flight speed for DA, but here's her flying from the X-Mansion to England in minutes:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5141/0rjg.jpg
So there's no edge there. I'm at or near the speed cap. Britain can eat it.

And here's Britain struggling vs. some Mystically enhanced demons:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7943/3hxf.jpg
And DA obliterating the same baddies:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2087/l18e.jpg
And DA isn't even my main energy output, or greatest strength.

Go To Sleep

Just look at this feat:
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/112/opim.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/3650/v25b.jpg
...I doubt I need to explain the relevance. I don't even need to liquify him (though I could). Just target the brain and send him to oblivion. Enjoy your naptime.

😊

[b]Abhilegend Post #1

Originally posted by Digi
[b]Digi Post #1

It seems I get to offer the first rebuttal. Abhi, cheers, it's been a while since we've had a tourney. Let's enjoy it.

Wings of an Angel

Let's first nip this Dark Angel nonsense in the bud. Curry reviewed everything and explicitly allowed the Fabric of the Universe as gear. Twice. I can post them if needed, or probably bring him in here to make a ruling (again). It won't go well for you, and it will appear as though I've gained some momentum. Let me know if you want to continue to pursue it, and I'll respond accordingly.

Originally posted by curryman
Implants go under "gifted" in my head, so they fall into the "power" category.

If it's a purely physical implant, then it should be body yeah?

You yourself said it so

Originally posted by Digi
[b]Summary of Participants and Rulings:

Body - Anything beyond base durability/strength/healing is technically still accessible, but you need a "mind" capable of reasonably unlocking it.

Powers - Inherent knowledge of powers is granted to your "mind." Anything that is learned (MA skill, magic incantations, etc.) is considered "mind." Anything innate (mutant powers, natural abilities, etc.) is considered a "power."

Mind - With your mind pick comes their standard equipment. See Powers above for explanation of mind/powers breakdown.

Heck Emma Frost and Jean Grey’s TP and TK were denied to me and Sue Richards’s powers too which are nearly identical to Dark Angel’s power source because mind pick only grants you skills and equipment.

curryman wrote on Jul 8th, 2013 09:58 PM:
Hey, I just wanted to check with you if you really wanted to go with Jean Grey.

Like someone mentioned earlier, she'll only have telepathy if you draft telepathic powers or a body with the capabilities for it (like miss martian, etc).

Just sending you this in case you forgot that you would need to draft Jean as power and not mind if you want anything but her skills xD

curryman wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 06:00 AM:

Sue's abilities would also fall under powers.
[quote] Mind: What constitutes as a mind-ability are things that the characters have learned. While I am a bit reticent to give away possible strong picks, it is safe to say that any skill that a character has not been "given" but earned would count as "The Mind." Fantomex' ability to read body language, Stark's intelligence, Karnak's ability to perceive weaknesses and so on Telepathy/Telekinesis. These things often come as a result of a freak accident, being some kind of advanced human or as a mutant gift. As such they would count towards powers. However, if a form of telepathy has been "learned" through mental discipline, I would be willing to allow it.

But suffice it to say, I wouldn't have drafted her if I didn't have access to her powers, and if I hadn't confirmed that beforehand. Judges, I have access to the Fabric of the Universe and the armor that channels it. It was discussed, reviewed, and approved. End of story.

Here's a scan of refutation, if needed:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5069/gymn.jpg
Wherein we learn that the Fabric has the "Power of Angels." DA has no inherent powers herself.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304276/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p18.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304277/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304278/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304279/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p21.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304280/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p22.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304281/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p23.jpg.html

After that whole debacle in the main discussion thread, where we specifically talked about gear and the Fabric as part of it, here's curry:

...that was in direct reference to her full powers as gear.

And again, I have another quote more explicitly referencing gear if needed. Abhi, just drop this. It's not debate, it's tedium that's already been decided.

Bringing a Bazooka to a Nerf Fight

Let's talk about Abhi's strategy here for a second.

He amalgamated Abom and Britain. I was expecting some sort of complimentary powers, a mesh or amp, anything, something. What we got is nothing. We have two base level bricks stacked on one another. Woo?

The other disappointment was Prometheus. His writeup contained exactly one scan of Prometheus, and it was...hypnotism? Against a phased, teleporting, telepathic character, who is also an alien robot that is hundreds of feet tall. Here's what Dark Angel thinks of this nonsense:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3743/kbub.jpg

First thing first, phasing is useless against me. Captain Britain can touch and punch things that are totally physically immaterial.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09b.jpg

So that’s useless. Try something better.

A cropped scan of no name character trying to focus? How convenient. She doesn't have her powers to save her anyway. Just how useless that hypnotism was? Ask green lantern

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338127/JLA_017-04.jpg.html

As such, we have a flying brick, and some useless trickery from Prometheus. Ultimo might be able to take them on his own.

And that's before amping his strength via Havok's power:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5149/zsxy.jpg
or more specifically, this:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1416/5ejq.jpg
And that's also before the incomprehensible upgrade I've given Havok via Angel's suit.

Seriously, I can behead his guy with a wave of my plasma-amped metallic pimp hand. I dominate his team in every phase of the game. Try harder.

Continued...............

Continued

Meet Armory...??

Hi Armory. You're not in the tournament. What the **** does that scan have to do with our match?

I think I can do better than that. What do you think?

I can absorb energy, phase through it, teleport around it, overpower it, or straight-up tank anything you can dish out. Btw, here's an absorption feat that's going to silence any doubt:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/644/20hv.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/random/exc110a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/random/exc110b.jpg

Guess he just absorbs everything Havok can throw at him.

But that whole Armory scan left a bad taste in my mouth. Here's some more feats of Ultimo tanking attacks that are > anything Abhi is bringing to bear in this fight:
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/622/6sxb.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/2844/mtce.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/9561/h9uf.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/9452/6ll5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/7186/eo71.jpg

Compare & Contrast

Mach 10 is the speed cap for the tourney, and it's a bit of a joke. I don't have an exact flight speed for DA, but here's her flying from the X-Mansion to England in minutes:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5141/0rjg.jpg
So there's no edge there. I'm at or near the speed cap. Britain can eat it.

Or match speed with a blitzing Jay Garrick?

We might be matched in flight speed but that’s not the clincher here. Its combat speed. You wouldn’t even see me coming.

And here's Britain struggling vs. some Mystically enhanced demons:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7943/3hxf.jpg
And DA obliterating the same baddies:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2087/l18e.jpg
And DA isn't even my main energy output, or greatest strength.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_03a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_03b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_03c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_03d.jpg

Go To Sleep

Just look at this feat:
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/112/opim.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/3650/v25b.jpg
...I doubt I need to explain the relevance. I don't even need to liquify him (though I could). Just target the brain and send him to oblivion. Enjoy your naptime.

He would get KTFO if hulk was causing him pain.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/random/quasar11a.jpg

Phoenix Rachel summers failed at resisting the same mind control btw. It was specified that it was due to Cap’s powers so it still applies to this combo.

😊 [/B]

srug

In short, Digi still has no plan as how to take my combo out other than overestimating Ultimo's strength and whatnot.

Digi Post #2

There we go, Abhi!! I was worried after your lackluster writeup. Thought I wouldn't even be challenged. Nice bounce-back. Now, let's get to it.

I hope to transition into specific rebuttals in this post, instead of the general areas of debate of my writeup and first post. My strategy is pretty well outlined by now, so we can get into the details.

/debate

Concerning Dark Angel, earlier today:

curryman wrote on Jul 25th, 2013 05:26 PM:
It's ok, she's accepted.

She was accepted under the assumption that the suit would give the wearer its abilities. That's not changing.

And in this case, "suit" refers to both Fabric and overs-suit (not sure what to call it). Curry is completely aware of the distinction, and both are allowed. I'm told this information has been conveyed to Abhi. Again, this was all covered during drafts. Any more questions?

Also, it invalidates everything Abhi said about DA not amping Havok. That sh*t is still on in force.

Originally posted by abhilegend
First thing first, phasing is useless against me. Captain Britain can touch and punch things that are totally physically immaterial.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09b.jpg

So that’s useless. Try something better.

First, the guy in the scan says it's an illusion, not phasing. Two different things.

Second, you're ignoring how I'm using the ability. I'm invisible (you haven't shown how you'd detect me, btw), so I can dictate our engagement. Then I'm teleporting behind you at an opportune moment and unleashing hell. What will that look like? Phasing into your chest and unleashing herald-busting energy blasts. Melting any and all tech Prometheus is bringing (including his suit). Or half a dozen other attacks.

Originally posted by abhilegend A cropped scan of no name character trying to focus? How convenient. She doesn't have her powers to save her anyway. Just how useless that hypnotism was? Ask green lantern

Green Lantern was staring at him from a few yards away. I have waves of adamantium-melting energy cascading off me, ruining anything that even comes close to me. Imagine this:
http://imageshack.us/a/img854/9962/pybq.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2527/fdyn.jpg
...times about 50, and omnidirectional, and you start to get the idea.

Also, you'll never get the chance to do that anyway. I'm engaging you on my terms, in a way that you can't detect or predict. First strike is mine, and it's all I'll need.

Originally posted by abhilegend That’s the funniest thing I heard all day long. Guys, Ultimo swatted IRON MAN MILES AWAY!! Who cares that just a component of my combo destroyed a place larger than planets with just shockwaves, right? So havok punched a random mutant who is so random, well his name is random. Not to mention that at this point Havok was amped beyond his normal level because of whole Mutant-X fiasco which he spells out in that scan, so that’s not his normal power anyway.

Iron Man is damn near the best energy output, durability, etc. at high meta. Ultimo frequently no-sells him. One scan doesn't refute that. I've posted, what, 6-10 scans of no-selling high meta level punishment (and in the case of the giant Iron Man battle, well above high meta collectively)? And that's before Dark Angel's absorption, Havok's shielding and absoprtion, etc.

Oh, and again, none of this matters. I will have the initiative in the fight. Teleport to you or phase up from the ground, blast you at point blank range, then teleport out if needed.

On the Havok thing, who cares if he was slightly amped? I'm absurdly more amped in this match. So Ultimo's strike will be enhanced beyond anything we've seen from him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here is Trauma and a random durable guy Hardball surviving a berserk Armory’s all out attack just fine.

I think I can do better than that. What do you think?

I don't know, because she's not in this match. You're quite far down the ABC rabbit hole here, based off a single scan that I have actively refuted with nearly a dozen scans. I'm not going to bother to follow you on this one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The good thing is that I’m not going to use energy attack then, isn’t it? Can havok absorb punches too? No? Too bad.

Woah woah woah. You don't get to ask rhetorical questions and answer as though you're speaking for me. Let's try this again...

"Can Havok absorb punches too?"

Yes.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/422/lu7f.jpg
...as ever, that's pre-amp. My shields will be impenetrable, or at the very least blunt his attacks into irrelevance.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Alex is welcome to try where people like Miss martian and Mordred failed.

He would get KTFO if hulk was causing him pain.

Wait, WHAT?! I didn't attack you telepathically, dude. That scan isn't the same thing. At all. It was a directed plasma attack on Hulk's brain. Go read the scan again. No telepathic energy to shunt back, like he did in the Miss Martian thing. Nada. None. Entirely different.

And it took out the damn Hulk. Are Abom and Britain > him now, too? Don't strain our credulity. And actually try to deal with my attacks, not how you wish I was attacking you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Guess he just absorbs everything Havok can throw at him.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3305/s1zz.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5418/ijq6.jpg

Cool story, bro.

Prom Date

Prometheus has an incredible prep showing against the JLA. Just amazing. That's where Abhi is pulling all of these scans from.

But here's the thing, and he even states it multiple times in the scans Abhi posted: he's prepping for completely specific power sets. Not me.

It's also dubious whether or not he'd have many of his items and weapons as standard. That was with prep, yeah?

Either way, it's useless. I'm going to melt the suit into his face before he's even within striking distance of me. Or rather, by phasing into his face and ripping it off him.

Let's End With a Bulleted List

I like bulleted conclusion lists. I don't think it's too early for them, yeah?

...actually, no, this is post 2 of 5. I think we should at least be in the back half before I start them. Something to look forward to next post, true believers! Excelsior!!!

[b]Abhilegend Post #2

Originally posted by Digi
[b]Digi Post #2

There we go, Abhi!! I was worried after your lackluster writeup. Thought I wouldn't even be challenged. Nice bounce-back. Now, let's get to it.

I hope to transition into specific rebuttals in this post, instead of the general areas of debate of my writeup and first post. My strategy is pretty well outlined by now, so we can get into the details.

/debate

Concerning Dark Angel, earlier today:

And in this case, "suit" refers to both Fabric and overs-suit (not sure what to call it). Curry is completely aware of the distinction, and both are allowed. I'm told this information has been conveyed to Abhi. Again, this was all covered during drafts. Any more questions?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304276/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p18.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304277/DarkAngel_006_MarvelUK_p19.jpg.html

Where did he say that "her physical implants" are a part of the suit

Also, it invalidates everything Abhi said about DA not amping Havok. That sh*t is still on in force.

First, the guy in the scan says it's an illusion, not phasing. Two different things.

Second, you're ignoring how I'm using the ability. I'm invisible (you haven't shown how you'd detect me, btw), so I can dictate our engagement.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_10a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_11a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_11b.jpg

Tell me, is your invisibility and intangibility more than a magical spell?

Then I'm teleporting behind you at an opportune moment and unleashing hell.

You are not fast enough.

What will that look like? Phasing into your chest and unleashing herald-busting energy blasts. Melting any and all tech Prometheus is bringing (including his suit). Or half a dozen other attacks.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc06a.jpg

Nocturne turns intangible when she possesses somebody FYI.

You are talking like Prometheus' suit wouldn't be protected from Cap's force-field which has taken an attack as hot as sun from Pete Wisdom right in the eyes without any problem

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Or here

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Green Lantern was staring at him from a few yards away. I have waves of adamantium-melting energy cascading off me, ruining anything that even comes close to me. Imagine this:
http://imageshack.us/a/img854/9962/pybq.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2527/fdyn.jpg
...times about 50, and omnidirectional, and you start to get the idea.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

I like how you conveniently forgot that. Also what is so impressive about an energy blast that creates a crater? Punches that create shockwaves able to destroy planets don't impress you?

Also, you'll never get the chance to do that anyway. I'm engaging you on my terms, in a way that you can't detect or predict. First strike is mine, and it's all I'll need.

Iron Man is damn near the best energy output, durability, etc. at high meta. Ultimo frequently no-sells him.

One scan doesn't refute that.

I've posted, what, 6-10 scans of no-selling high meta level punishment (and in the case of the giant Iron Man battle, well above high meta collectively)?

And that's before Dark Angel's absorption, Havok's shielding and absoprtion, etc.

Oh, and again, none of this matters. I will have the initiative in the fight. Teleport to you or phase up from the ground, blast you at point blank range, then teleport out if needed.

On the Havok thing, who cares if he was slightly amped?

I'm absurdly more amped in this match.

So Ultimo's strike will be enhanced beyond anything we've seen from him.

Continued..............

Continued................

I don't know, because she's not in this match. You're quite far down the ABC rabbit hole here, based off a single scan that I have actively refuted with nearly a dozen scans. I'm not going to bother to follow you on this one.

Woah woah woah. You don't get to ask rhetorical questions and answer as though you're speaking for me. Let's try this again...

"Can Havok absorb punches too?"

Yes.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/422/lu7f.jpg
...as ever, that's pre-amp.

My shields will be impenetrable, or at the very least blunt his attacks into irrelevance.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/strength/quasar11b.jpg

Havok's shields would get shattered by a single punch. Don't get ridiculous.

Wait, WHAT?! I didn't attack you telepathically, dude. That scan isn't the same thing. At all. It was a directed plasma attack on Hulk's brain. Go read the scan again. No telepathic energy to shunt back, like he did in the Miss Martian thing. Nada. None. Entirely different.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Good luck.

And it took out the damn Hulk. Are Abom and Britain > him now, too? Don't strain our credulity. And actually try to deal with my attacks, not how you wish I was attacking you.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3305/s1zz.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5418/ijq6.jpg

Cool story, bro.

Prom Date

Prometheus has an incredible prep showing against the JLA. Just amazing. That's where Abhi is pulling all of these scans from.

But here's the thing, and he even states it multiple times in the scans Abhi posted: he's prepping for completely specific power sets. Not me.

Its not a specific prep and why would something which downed someone like Red Tornado wouldn't work on a far less sophisticated android such as ultimo?

It's also dubious whether or not he'd have many of his items and weapons as standard. That was with prep, yeah?

Either way, it's useless. I'm going to melt the suit into his face before he's even within striking distance of me. Or rather, by phasing into his face and ripping it off him.

Let's End With a Bulleted List

I like bulleted conclusion lists. I don't think it's too early for them, yeah?

...actually, no, this is post 2 of 5. I think we should at least be in the back half before I start them. Something to look forward to next post, true believers! Excelsior!!! [/B]

You have no counter to any of my attacks. I'm going to rip apart your suit after destroying Havok's puny shields, rip Ultimo apart limb by limb and then disable your android mind and then hypnotize your human mind into submission in less than a millisecond. Try to stop me.

Abhi, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm facing you so I kinda have to. One match post is exactly that, one post. You labeled your 3rd post at #2. I think that you're thinking you've only posted twice. But you're at 4 posts right now.

I'm pointing it out here so that it's seen and not buried in other discussion, but if you'd like to contend it, we might be able to segue to the main thread.

Unofficial post.

That's because my post was so big that I'd have to split it into two parts otherwise I couldn't even post it. That's why I wrote continued....... at the end of both posts. I posted only twice so I wrote it as post #2.

...continued in main discussion thread.

Digi Post #3

First of all, really?! REALLY?! No one's going to say anything about my music video at the beginning? Not here, and not in the main thread. Fine, I'll take my ball and go home. See if I release another video next match.

First Blood

Abhi tried to call me out on my invisibility. Ok, kudos on making me use this scan:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7003/5bnl.jpg
That's Dark Angel invisible to friggin' Mephisto in his own realm. Good luck claiming I'm not invisible at this point.

It's also not magic-based. So you can stuff that argument about Britain seeing it.

So I initiate the fight, as it has always been. I teleport behind him, phase into him, and destroy him from the inside. Hell, I'm big enough to just merge his entire body (including brain) with metal. If he survives, he sure as hell won't be in fighting shape.

Even if one aspect of it doesn't go as planned, I get the first attack, can teleport away on a whim, and probably still have an insta-kill with amped Havok at point blank range.

He has no escape from this. No answer to it. The interpretation of this match doesn't need to go any further. And if I don't have the advantage I want, I teleport away and begin anew (see writeup for basic scans of all these abilities).

Venn Diagrams

There's a few common ways to approach tourney drafts. One is to be the best at something. Speed, telepathy, whatever, just overwhelm your opponent with one major advantage.

Another is amping via mesh, as evidenced in my amalgam, or Id's for another obvious example.

A third is prep mastery. Just go nuts with something using a brainiac or tech pimp.

Another is to cover a ton of bases and hope your opponent can't account for all of them. To a certain extent, I did this. Telepathy, phasing, teleporting, energy absorption and massive energy attacks, solid physical stats, etc. The Havok amp means I went for broke in one particular category, but I also tried to cover many different bases.

And then there's Abhi. Abom + Britain. Two powerful characters in their own right. But almost entirely overlapping. Do you think their strength stacks? How so? You can't have two bodies. I thought something else was going to come of this, but no. You have them at their base levels.

You've got some good scans, and they're solid players. But you're fighting uphill because you're one-dimensional. Or, rather, one-dimensional compared to most teams. Much like your idol, you just want to punch your way to victory. That doesn't cut it in tournaments.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not going to happen. Prometheus' suit is fast enough to inform about Starman firing his energy blast and then side-step it from behind.

You are not fast enough.

Kinda inconclusive, yeah? He detected the blast before it came and just sidestepped. I will give no such warning, and my blast will be thousands of times more powerful and larger in radius. You're not dodging anything.

If you're basing your speed on your least superpowered pick, you're in trouble.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are talking like Prometheus' suit wouldn't be protected from Cap's force-field which has taken an attack as hot as sun from Pete Wisdom right in the eyes without any problem

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Or here

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Same scan both times. Also seems wildly inconclusive. I'm not even sure what I'm looking at or how it turned out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
First thing first, that wasn't 616 adamantium or even adamantium. It was an alternate reality alloy with no durability feat to speak of which Havok mistook as adamntium. If you're trying that as a proof that Havok can melt adamantium, a huge lulz @ that. Havok has unloaded everything he could at a weaker cap and cap no sold it completely to the point havok drained himself.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

I like how you conveniently forgot that. Also what is so impressive about an energy blast that creates a crater? Punches that create shockwaves able to destroy planets don't impress you?

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/7255/j8gl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/8418/9qk4.jpg

As ever, that's pre-amp. I can do this all day.

And in my case, my Havok could perform that feat easily and continuously, since he has an endless power source to draw from.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Obviously he is beneath Armory then.

Ok, maybe? If he is, then it's meaningless. And if not, you found an outlier thread that I've been refuting (and will continue to do so).

Iron Man not enough for you? He's no-sold IM and War Machine at the same time. Multiple IM suits remotely controlled. Ms. Marvel. I don't want to pull the Thor feat. I have a gentleman's agreement that I won't use that in this tourney, because it's an outlier in the other direction. But it exists, and you're obviously not one-shotting anything, or even hurting me seriously. Overstatement isn't going to get you anywhere.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Havok's shields are a joke. Energy absorption has nothing to do with punches.

Where to begin? Energy shields can help against punches. So there's the first completely obvious point. The scan I posted was a shield, not absorption.

I could say more, but that's enough, I'll let it sink in.

Dark Angel (again)

And now, our field reporter, Steve. Steve, what's the word out there?

Steve: Well Jim, we have yet another confirmation from curry that Dark Angel is entirely legal, and that the Fabric of the Universe is included in that, and that Dark Angel gets access to all of her powers. Let's take a look at the tape...

Digi wrote on Jul 26th, 2013 12:26 PM:
The Fabric was an object given to her that grants her powers, but he's claiming that once it was given to her, it became a part of her body. The issue is whether or not the Fabric is counted as equipment or body.

curryman wrote on Jul 26th, 2013 01:13 PM:
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

The draft stands. I will PM Abhi.

And Jim, this is in addition to the earlier statement from curry, saying essentially the same thing:

curryman wrote on Jul 25th, 2013 05:26 PM:
She was accepted under the assumption that the suit would give the wearer its abilities. That's not changing.

I'll drop the act and be serious now. Abhi, the Fabric is a tricky thing, because it could be seen as either gear (mind pick) or body (body pick). It has been approved as gear several times now. I actually understand where you're coming from, because it's a bit ambiguous and required a ruling. But that ruling has come in. I know you know this by now.

You're not going to get her invalidated. If you want, I can annoy curry again and have another quote ready for my next post. But let's just move on. You think you win anyway, yeah? Beat me straight-up; don't try to get an already-approved pick invalidated.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Beating on vulcan doesn't impress me. Look what Gladiator did to him and my combo is VASTLY stronger than Gladiator.

😂

Un-amped high meta picks are "VASTLY" stronger than Gladiator?

Keyboard cat, play him off:

YouTube video

[b]Abhilegend Post #3

Originally posted by Digi
[b]Digi Post #3
That's Dark Angel invisible to friggin' Mephisto in his own realm. Good luck claiming I'm not invisible at this point.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360173/DarkAngel_009_p07.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360183/DarkAngel_009_p11.jpg.html

That’s Guide seeing her alright. Then her soul merged with angel of death goes to Mephisto’s realm where her allies were already in fight with Mys-tech board which has avoided Mephisto’s gaze too even after a bit of fighting and even fighting some random demons of mephisto.

Not a good showing for Mephisto and Cloak if unshielded humans avoided his gaze too, right? Not to mention it was Dark Angel’s soul which was shielded from Mephisto’s gaze not her body.

Now to the second showing. Its even more interesting. Dark angel travels to Astral Plane

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360191/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360192/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p14.jpg.html

which means no normal human sighting there too. Then she hides herself from Anti-being’s indirect gaze by cloak and some rocks

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360193/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360194/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p20.jpg.html

The cloak is so effective that he immediately spots her when she comes out of hiding

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360195/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p21.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360196/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p22.jpg.html

Damn, how could I spot her when everyone who looked at her spotted her!!!!!! That’s some shitty invisibility right there.

It's also not magic-based. So you can stuff that argument about Britain seeing it.

So I initiate the fight, as it has always been. I teleport behind him, phase into him, and destroy him from the inside.

curryman wrote on Jul 26th, 2013 09:36 PM:
As long as it's not used to;

- Place people there

- Move outside a place outside the battlefield.

So in example; Nightcrawler's teleportation or Magik's stones would be allowed, as well as J'onn's phasing 🙂

Years later Ruin using the same tech made Superman’s life hell, teleporting so fast that not even he could sense him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360354/17.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360356/18.jpg.html

He said he had seen the same light before on someone when Ruin teleports. That’s the same light as Prometheus teleports himself and Zauriel and that’s why superman remembers it because Ruin never teleported in his sight before. So, I teleport behind you and with nanosecond level reactions infect your android body and then tear your body apart. Do you have any kind of reflex feats to defend yourself?

Hell, I'm big enough to just merge his entire body (including brain) with metal. If he survives, he sure as hell won't be in fighting shape.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc06a.jpg

Good luck.

Even if one aspect of it doesn't go as planned, I get the first attack, can teleport away on a whim, and probably still have an insta-kill with amped Havok at point blank range.

He has no escape from this. No answer to it.

The interpretation of this match doesn't need to go any further. And if I don't have the advantage I want, I teleport away and begin anew (see writeup for basic scans of all these abilities).

Same scan both times. Also seems wildly inconclusive. I'm not even sure what I'm looking at or how it turned out.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc14a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/durability/newexc08b.jpg

Also I forgot to add, this is Havok amped on all the Havoks of multiverse from Mutant X.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

Good luck amping him to that level.

As ever, that's pre-amp. I can do this all day.

And in my case, my Havok could perform that feat easily and continuously, since he has an endless power source to draw from.

Ok, maybe? If he is, then it's meaningless. And if not, you found an outlier thread that I've been refuting (and will continue to do so).

Iron Man not enough for you? He's no-sold IM and War Machine at the same time. Multiple IM suits remotely controlled. Ms. Marvel.

I don't want to pull the Thor feat. I have a gentleman's agreement that I won't use that in this tourney, because it's an outlier in the other direction. But it exists, and you're obviously not one-shotting anything, or even hurting me seriously. Overstatement isn't going to get you anywhere.

Knock us all out with similar showings from IM and war machine in that armor.

Where to begin? Energy shields can help against punches. So there's the first completely obvious point. The scan I posted was a shield, not absorption.

Also I accepted Dark Angel as a pick. Let’s move on.

😂

Un-amped high meta picks are "VASTLY" stronger than Gladiator?
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http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Gladiator/GladiatorvsHyperion.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Gladiator/GladiatorvsHyperion2.jpg

Cap punches a super-skrull with Hyperion’s powers’ head off.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/mi13_01d.jpg

That doesn’t shows a “vast” strength difference? You are placing too much faith in tier system.

At this point, Digi’s Phasing, intangibility, Teleportation, Strength and energy blast have all been countered by me successfully. He still hasn’t countered any of my points at how he is reacting to my attacks, enough durability of shields and Ultimo to counter my strength and most importantly he completely ignored this.

He has no counter for this.

Digi Post #4

Originally posted by abhilegend
You always this misleading digi?

Still on this? Classy. No, I'm not btw. Let's look at why.

Originally posted by abhilegend
First let me show the whole context of that showing. Dark Angel was merged with Angel of death that allowed her soul to gain the cloak of invisibility via transference

Nice catch. But irrelevant. Here's why:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360193/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360194/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p20.jpg.html

Look at the bottom of that first scan. I'll quote you the line. She turns them invisible and it says "An initiatory power gained from the Angel of Death in Dark Angel #9"

And what was Dark Angel #9? You guessed it, the Mephisto feat.

She retains the ability. It's part of her skill set. And the proof is written right into the comic.

So. I have invisibility that works on Mephisto in his own realm. Nothing changes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The cloak is so effective that he immediately spots her when she comes out of hiding

So, you're saying he sees her once she wants him to see her. Nice rebuttal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Damn, how could I spot her when everyone who looked at her spotted her!!!!!! That’s some shitty invisibility right there. Its absolutely magic based, not that it is needed. Since curry clarified that dimensional teleportation is fair game, I can teleport too.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360357/JLA_017-23.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360358/JLA_017-24.jpg.html

Looks like he just heads home. That's not battle teleportation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Years later Ruin using the same tech made Superman’s life hell, teleporting so fast that not even he could sense him.

And that's not the same character. And your "proof" that it's the same tech is idle speculation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Good luck amping him to that level. Good showing but that had more to the point that Havok’s plasma powers could negate the pull of that black hole for some time. It has no use in a combat since there is nothing he can negate here. I’m not throwing black holes at him digi.

No, what you're doing is considerably less powerful.

And let's take that feat to its logical conclusion. If he can hold back a black hole with his power, don't you think that same level of energy force can hold back, I dunno, a punch from a high meta character? I'll let you do that math on that one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What would you do with a plasma sphere that negates gravity? Throw it at us and hope I stand there and get caught in it? Huh? None of these are enough. I don’t see any of these punching hulk to death+shattering planets with shockwaves level strength.

No, but I have a scan of um-amped Havok alone defeating Hulk (see Digi Post #1, true believers!). And black holes are significantly > planet-busting. If Havok didn't have that level of power, the planet would have been consumed in that feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering that the Thor showing is from a different version of Ultimo, I don’t see how that’s a high end outlier for THIS ultimo. This ultimo had two showings, one in which it no sold Iron man and War machine and then Armory oneshotted it.

Enough with this Armory BS. If you wanted that feat so bad, you should've drafted her.

Let's take a look at her Wiki:
"Armory possesses a multi-dimensional device that is able shift into an infinite number of weapons. Armory calls it the Tactigon, and says that it has a built in safety that lets her only get the weapons and power she needs to get the job done."

Oh, what's that, she's strapped to walking PIS. Cool. It has absolutely zero bearing on this match.

Let's try a different source, one for the gun itself:
http://marvel.wikia.com/Tactigon

Pretty much confirms everything I just said. You're citing an infinitely adaptable gun with 1-2 showings into a fight where you didn't even draft her, and expecting me to take it seriously.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also I accepted Dark Angel as a pick. Let’s move on.

Not quite so fast.

Judges
[list]- Abhi accepts the Dark Angel pick entirely.
- This makes all of my amps and strategies viable.
- Abhi wasted probably about 1/4 of his earlier posts on trying to discredit something that he now accepts. EVERYTHING he has said about DA's legality to this point should be discounted entirely.[/list]

😊

Ok, now let's move on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Gladiator was perfectly matched by hyperion in strength

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Gladiator/GladiatorvsHyperion.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Gladiator/GladiatorvsHyperion2.jpg

Cap punches a super-skrull with Hyperion’s powers’ head off.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/king%20of%20otherworld%20onwards/battles/mi13_01d.jpg

That doesn’t shows a “vast” strength difference? You are placing too much faith in tier system.

And you're placing too much faith in second-hand feats. A Skrull facsimile standing in for someone that we all know Britain could never come close to beheading. A character you didn't draft (Armory), with a brokenly OP weapon, substituting for actual offense. A Superman foe with a similar glow as "proof" that you can accomplish the same teleportation.

Oh, and maybe it's just me, but the energy bolts aimed at the Skrull in the first panel of that scan seem to tear his neck up something fierce. There's some green blood-stuff coming out. Something tells me it wasn't an unassisted feat by Britain.

CONTINUED...

So here's the ruling about post counts. Abhi isn't allowed to do what he did anymore, but his earlier posts where he counts 2 as 1 are being counted as 1.

In compensation, I'm allowed to make one "Continued..." post where we count 2 as 1, so that Abhi hasn't been granted more debate time than me. It's a decent compromise.

For judging purposes, it changes nothing, but this is just an FYI.

...

I'm using this as a summary of my take so far. Most of the scans needed are dotted throughout my earlier posts.
[list]
- His reliance on secondhand feats is staggering. Skrull = Hyperion. Ambiguously powerful PIS gun = Britain. Ruin = Prometheus. I actually have two feats of one of my picks (Havok) destroying a mid herald energy manipulator when amped. Hell, even Black Blot arguably fared worse against Vulcan. And it's all directly on panel. If he thinks he can come within a quarter mile of me without having to deal with herald-busting energies, he's deluding himself.

- I managed to amp Havok continuously with DA's Fabric-armor (all scans in my writeup). The Fabric of the Universe is made of the stuff that amps him, and it is an endless energy supply. This will amp Havok beyond anything we've ever seen. Abhi has stopped his crusade against DA's legality, so this is on in force.

- On the flip side, Abhi did nothing to amp anyone. So there's one of two ways to see this: Either A. Abhi drafted a Gladiator-busting character in a high meta tourney. Or B. he has unamped high metas. I think the answer is obvious.

- As outlined in my most recent post above, my invisibility remains in full force, and I will initiate conflict. This negates many of his potential advantages, and allows me to dictate the entire encounter.

- That Abhi refuses to understand how Havok can block punches astounds me. He can hold back a black hole, but a punch against a hundreds-foot tall robot is indefensible. Child, please. Same logic with strength-amping. Havok has done it before, and he'll be as amped as he's ever been in a comic. To pretend that it's impossible is to deny on-panel evidence. So I have amped my near-the-caps pick in durability, strength, energy, everything. He has not.

- Can't stress this enough, DA is legal and Abhi accepts this. Everything he's said about her legality can be safely discarded.

- Lastly, don't make the mistake of confusing tenacity for validity. Abhi and I have had probably the most intense back and forth debate of the tourney so far. I've seen a lot of "great match" notes from people. And that's great! But the potential trap is thinking this match is close simply on the merits of that intensity. I don't think it is, at all. I think Abhi came out flat with his writeup, failed spectacularly in getting my DA pick disqualified, didn't mesh his draft picks advantageously, is relying on suspect appearances by characters he didn't draft to make his point, and is severely behind in several key areas of power or versatility in this thread. Make the right call, vote for Digi![/list]

fdog

Abhilegend Post #4

Originally posted by Digi
[b]Digi Post #4Nice catch. But irrelevant. Here's why:
Look at the bottom of that first scan. I'll quote you the line. She turns them invisible and it says "An initiatory power gained from the Angel of Death in Dark Angel #9"

And what was Dark Angel #9? You guessed it, the Mephisto feat.

I know everything you will do before you even do something.

When I teleport to the phantom zone, I teleport to a dimension which is connected to every point of time and space simultaneously. Here superman travels to Krypton before it exploded via phantom zone

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362438/phantomzone3.jpg.html

Here Epoch simultaneously glimpses Phantom Girl in 31st century (who’s never been imprisoned in phantom zone btw so it’s a glimpse of future), Mon-El, Zod and others in 21st century.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362432/phantomzone1.jpg.html
Here Zod says he has seen Superman’s life for decades
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362437/phantomzone2.jpg.html

And the time doesn’t passes in the zone

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC851-007.jpg

So, I teleport there and learn everything you are going to do before you even do anything in no time at all. I know when you are going to turn invisible, where are you when you are invisible, when are you going to teleport, where would you appear next. I know it all. Good luck trying to do anything to me now.

She retains the ability. It's part of her skill set. And the proof is written right into the comic.

So. I have invisibility that works on Mephisto in his own realm. Nothing changes.

So, you're saying he sees her once she wants him to see her. Nice rebuttal.

Looks like he just heads home. That's not battle teleportation.

And that's not the same character.

And your "proof" that it's the same tech is idle speculation.

No, what you're doing is considerably less powerful.

And let's take that feat to its logical conclusion. If he can hold back a black hole with his power, don't you think that same level of energy force can hold back, I dunno, a punch from a high meta character?

I'll let you do that math on that one.

No, but I have a scan of um-amped Havok alone defeating Hulk (see Digi Post #1, true believers!).

And black holes are significantly > planet-busting. If Havok didn't have that level of power, the planet would have been consumed in that feat.

Enough with this Armory BS. If you wanted that feat so bad, you should've drafted her.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338285/Avengers-TheInitiative1-022.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338289/Avengers-TheInitiative1-023.jpg.html

Obviously that was a planet busting attack they tanked, right?

And you're placing too much faith in second-hand feats. A Skrull facsimile standing in for someone that we all know Britain could never come close to beheading.

A character you didn't draft (Armory), with a brokenly OP weapon, substituting for actual offense.

A Superman foe with a similar glow as "proof" that you can accomplish the same teleportation.

Oh, and maybe it's just me, but the energy bolts aimed at the Skrull in the first panel of that scan seem to tear his neck up something fierce. There's some green blood-stuff coming out. Something tells me it wasn't an unassisted feat by Britain. [/B]

- His reliance on secondhand feats is staggering. Skrull = Hyperion. Ambiguously powerful PIS gun = Britain. Ruin = Prometheus. I actually have two feats of one of my picks (Havok) destroying a mid herald energy manipulator when amped. Hell, even Black Blot arguably fared worse against Vulcan. And it's all directly on panel.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_04c.jpg
He had Excalibur but it doesn’t increases wearer’s durability, it just makes them unable to bleed no matter how wounded so its just his own durability. Can you amp havok to that level? Not to mention I’ve already tanked Havok’s all out attack when he was amped to all the Havoks in the multiverse from Mutant X.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg

I’ve posted this several times and Digi always ignores this. BTW I never said Ruin=Prometheus, I just said their tech was the same on their working and superman’s comment.

- I managed to amp Havok continuously with DA's Fabric-armor (all scans in my writeup). The Fabric of the Universe is made of the stuff that amps him, and it is an endless energy supply. This will amp Havok beyond anything we've ever seen. Abhi has stopped his crusade against DA's legality, so this is on in force.

- As outlined in my most recent post above, my invisibility remains in full force, and I will initiate conflict. This negates many of his potential advantages, and allows me to dictate the entire encounter.

- That Abhi refuses to understand how Havok can block punches astounds me. He can hold back a black hole, but a punch against a hundreds-foot tall robot is indefensible.

hild, please. Same logic with strength-amping. Havok has done it before, and he'll be as amped as he's ever been in a comic.

To pretend that it's impossible is to deny on-panel evidence. So I have amped my near-the-caps pick in durability, strength, energy, everything. He has not. [/B]

Originally posted by abhilegend
[b]Abhilegend Post #4
Present the feats grandpa.
[/B]

.....LMFAO......but seriously, i smell a ban coming for that crack. 😐

(pardon the interruption, carry on....)

Abhilegend Post #5

Complete strategy.
- I teleport to the phantom zone and learn everything about what Digi is going to do due to Zone being present in every point of time and space.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362438/phantomzone3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362432/phantomzone1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16362437/phantomzone2.jpg.html
-So now I know about everything Digi is going to do , I know where he is hiding being invisible and all thanks to my acute vision and the knowledge of him being there. Here Cap sees an invisible spell
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_10a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_11a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_11b.jpg
Even a normal human, Guide saw her.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360183/DarkAngel_009_p11.jpg.html
Mephisto’s gaze was so shitty in that comic that his demons found out Mys-tech board and Wyrd Sisters fighting before he did and he failed to notice them even after they cursed him.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360189/DarkAngel_009_p13.jpg.html
Its not even a usable feat for Digi because this is not even used by her body but her soul which was merged with Angel of Death.
She was seen again by Anti-being as soon as she appeared in sight and she was hiding under some rocks the cloak was so useful.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360193/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360194/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360195/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p21.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360196/DarkAngel_011_MarvelUK_p22.jpg.html
So her invisibility is countered thanks to my vision and knowledge.

-I can touch and punch physically immaterial beings, so intangibility isn't a problem
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_09b.jpg

-Speed. I can react to a lightspeed attack under 1/10th of millisecond and deflect it.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338334/Cry_for_Justice_06007-008.jpg.html
Side-step an energy blast after it was fired
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16351884/Cry_for_Justice_06005-006.jpg.html
match speed with Jay Garrick
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338343/Cry_for_Justice_06017.jpg.html
With this level of speed, teleportation and complete knowledge of what Digi is going to do, there is no energy blast that is touching me before I just teleport away or since I can open Doorway to phantom zone I can just shunt any energy attack to phantom zone.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364073/JLA2016_pg14.JPG.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364078/JLA2016_pg15.jpg.html
So there is no way Digi is hitting me with an energy attack.

-Durability. Even if Digi somehow hits me once, I am MORE than enough durable to tank anything he can throw at me. Here is a weaker Cap tanking everything Mutant X Havok who was amped beyond his normal level by the power of ALL Havoks in the multiverse.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIa.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/battles/weirdwarIIIb.jpg
That’s more than what Digi can hope to amp havok here, since Dark Angel herself hasn’t got any major energy projection feats. A weaker Cap takes punishment from Original “MJJ buster” Fury himself.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/durability/mwom11d.jpg
Then current cap fights Fury and the shockwaves of their punches destroy a place larger than planets.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364227/dbts05a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364228/dbts05b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364230/dbts05c.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364231/dbts05d.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364232/dbts05e.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364284/dbts05f.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364285/dbts05g.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364286/dbts05h.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364287/dbts05i.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364288/dbts05j.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16241213/1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16241214/2.jpg.html
Takes beating from a super-skrull wielding the magic of all Britain (including Sword of Might and Amulet of Right)
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/post%20secret%20invasion/mi13_04c.jpg
He had Excalibur but it doesn’t increases wearer’s durability, it just makes them unable to bleed no matter how wounded so its just his own durability. Combine that with above hulk level durability of Abomination and Digi isn’t beating us by blasting at us.

-Strength. I just posted Cap in a slugfest destroying a palace bigger than planets! Add that with Abomination’s strength which is double than an angry savage hulk and who nearly killed hulk in four punches
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination01TTA090.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAbomination03.jpg
I can shatter any shield erected by Havok with this combined strength when a weaker Cap shattered Crimson Bands of Cyttorak like a twig casted by Mordred which held Quasar completely helpless
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Captain%20Britain%20respect/original/strength/quasar11b.jpg
and you have a monster in strength.

-Prep. I can just take down Digi’s combo just like Prom took down Red Tornado who is a vastly more sophisticated android than Ultimo.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338442/Cry_for_Justice_06005-006.jpg.html
I can then hypnotize the human brain inside to stay dormant.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16307180/JLA_16_pg16.JPG.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338127/JLA_017-04.jpg.html

Now I would just tear Ultimo’s body apart using my vast strength and vastly superior speed. Any energy blast he might throw would be either dodged by teleporting or shunting it into phantom zone. If he tries to teleport away, I would know when he’s going to teleport and where he would reappear next so I would simply teleport right there and would start tearing him apart at superspeed again.

-Flaws in Digi’s plan. Digi tried to pass this as a major amping feat. What he failed to mention that the same hugely amped Anti-being was helplessly pawned by a simple portal created by a weakened Dark Angel.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16364068/DarkAngel_012_MarvelUK_p05.jpg.html
He overselled Ultimo’s durability. No selling Iron man and War machine is good. Its no good when you get oneshotted by a random heroine which some random punks completely no sell.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16306491/Avengers-TheInitiative1-011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16306498/Avengers-TheInitiative1-012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338285/Avengers-TheInitiative1-022.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338289/Avengers-TheInitiative1-023.jpg.html
Despite what Digi said, its not better than what my combo can bring to the table. Not by a long shot.

-He brought scans of Havok being carried away by a nameless character and Havok negating gravity of a black hole which was at best a continent buster as a shield capable of blocking punches that can destroy planets. SMH.

-He overselled Havok’s energy projection. Vulcan has no feats approaching my combo’s durability. He tried to strawman it by bringing up tiers but we all know that feats>KMC tiers, don’t we?

So here we are, Digi’s whole strategy destroyed, his combo’s mind and body both destroyed and that’s all.

I had a lot of fun in this match. I apologize to Digi if anything I said offended him. See you all.

Digi Post #5

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes and that’s the only showing with the suit making her body invisible and even then Anti-being spotted her as soon as he saw her. That was Dark Angel’s soul merged with Angel of Death which hid from mephisto. Unusable for her body since it wasn’t used on that. Not to mention that some random humans without any invisibility hid from Mephisto’s gaze too.

She used it again later, and it was stated to be an ability she gained at the time of the Mephisto feat. No Angel of Death needed. That was all spelled out in the scan. It's an ability I have access to, because she's used it multiple times, under her own power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When I teleport to the phantom zone, I teleport to a dimension which is connected to every point of time and space simultaneously. Here superman travels to Krypton before it exploded via phantom zone

Then I follow you. DA can dimension hop too if needed. I'm not quite sure what the ruling here is, but I thought dimensional teleportation was fine. But hanging out indefinitely in the Phantom Zone would likely constitute a self-BFR.

So if this is legal, I'll follow you, or hang out in the Astral Plane (a DA feat that was actually stated by Abhi earlier...I didn't think to bring it up, but thanks for the assist). Basically, somewhere outside your gaze. Because this is stupid, but if legal, I'll use it to my advantage just as much.

So much for your trump card.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That’s as good of a battle teleportation as any not that matters. I can teleport freely. The same tech, never said Ruin was Prometheus.

So presumably, we both have teleportation. Ok, cool. Lost in all this is the fact that you never used it in your strategy. You don't have a plan for it, except to say that you have it.

This is a tourney, wherein we determine our team's strategy and employ our powers as we see fit. Your whole strategy has been to punch me. It's remarkably one-dimensional.

I'm still invisible, I can still absorb your attacks or block them, and I still have more power at my disposal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When havok countered the gravity of black hole, it would’ve consumed china after absorption of energy for more than a minute. Its significantly lesser than planet busting.

Except Havok states that it's probably going to consume the planet. In this case, I trust his word over yours.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Secret Invasion made it clear that super-skrulls had the same power levels of the heroes they copied powers with. Objection dismissed.

Oh god, this isn't right at all. They copied several powers, but rarely at full strength. ESPECIALLY for the more powerful heroes. Did they have Skrulls with Thor's powers? Sentry's? Half a dozen others with High Herald+ powers? Of course not. This was explicitly discussed in the arc, and your interpretation also defies common sense.

So I see the problem. Your assumption about Skrull copying misled you.

Scans

I forgot about this. DA has powerful shielding too:
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/9601/udi4.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9030/1bvv.jpg

Also, he's been asking for a reaction speed feat:
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8672/nhds.jpg
...milliseconds.

Add this to my flight speed, and there's no edge here for Abhi.

And again, the suit IS cosmic energy:
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2194/xj6q.jpg

The scans of amping the Anti-Being were to show that she can amp those who absorb cosmic energy, as Havok does. Abhi had some weird tangent about his power level and how he was defeated, but that has no bearing on my strategy.

Phasing and Absorption

This is a big deal, and I haven't been clear enough on it.

To clear up a misconception, DA has two kinds of phasing. The first is more traditional; she can reduce the density of herself to phase through things:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/340/t75v.jpg

She can also make her suit (which covers Ultimo's entire body) into a void...essentially a portal, similar to Spot's powers:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/644/20hv.jpg

So what does this mean? It means that, any time I want, I can simply "swallow" his attacks into my suit. Energy, punches, that impossible-too-pronounce virus thing Abhi keeps mentioning. Any of it. That's the power I possess, and why none of his attacks have any chance of doing lasting harm to my excellently defended amalgam.

Conclusion

- I'm as fast as he is, travel speed or reaction time.
- I have powerful shielding courtesy of two of my picks.
- I have an amped Havok that can continuously pour energy into Abhi's amalgam.
- He lacks any amps. He's got a couple bricks and can fly.
- All or most of Prometheus's tech was matchup-specific, and there's no guarantee any of it would work on me.
- His supposed trump card about the Phantom Zone is potentially illegal, and if it's legal I can hang out in the Astral Plane until he decides he wants to fight.
- I can shunt attacks into the Fabric of the Universe, by turning it into an Ultimo-sized portal that swallows anything I want it to.
- My energy can kill him, melt his tech, and annihilate him entirely. Prometheus never faced the city-sized blasts I'll be leveling at him, and nothing his amalgam can do will prevent it.
- Abhi;s been trying to discredit Angel the entire match. The early stuff is now invalid, and Abhi admitted that he accepts her as a pick. And the more recent stuff is cobbled together from a torrent file and an incomplete understanding of the character. I hope I've justified everything I've tried to do, because it's all legal and in her power set.
- Lastly, I have a more complete strategy, more avenues of attack, and more defenses in place. Abhi fought well, but his plan and drafts are lacking compared to mine. Vote for Digi.

That concludes the second match of the tournament.

Good job to both of you gentlemen, you can now enjoy a well earned rest.

The judges for this match are PR, Omega Vision and Galan.