Originally posted by beatboks
I saw the firstpost with the JSA line up and thought team two woulf be fubared.
As it happens ou have a reasonable fight which the JSA still takes in a hard fought one. Combining Matthey and Alan's time manip alone gives them too much of an advantage
Don't forget about Obsidian. He's a power player on JSA side.
The JSA wins because of Hourman.
Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate go to war.
Alan matches Surfer.
Kingdom Come Superman beats Thor.
Captain Marvel beats Monica.
Obsidian and Quasar. close but I will take Wendell.Barely.
Starman loses to Sersi.
Uncle Sam loses to Hercules.
KCS beats Quasar.
Captain Marvel beats Sersi.
Dr. Fate beats Hercules.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The JSA wins because of Hourman.Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate go to war.
Alan matches Surfer.
Kingdom Come Superman beats Thor.
Captain Marvel beats Monica.
Obsidian and Quasar. close but I will take Wendell.Barely.
Starman loses to Sersi.
Uncle Sam loses to Hercules.
KCS beats Quasar.
Captain Marvel beats Sersi.
Dr. Fate beats Hercules.
I wouldn't be so quick to say Uncle Sam looses to Her TBH. he was an even match fir Baron Blitzcrieg and he could fight powered up GA Superman on close to even terms ( he was behind but not by that much). If all comes down to the level of patriotism and belief in America. lets not forget that on top of his strength and durability there's all his mental powers ( that granted he uses about as often as Thor pulls out what Mjilnor can do).
i also wouldnt be so quick to give the battle between Wendell and Todd to Quasar. it is very close though, but Todd has soloed the entire JSA after all. depends on how closely linked to the shadow realms he is. After the fatherland ark ( where he was made into an egg) it was inferred he was back to peak power without the downfalls so who knows
Originally posted by beatboks
I saw the firstpost with the JSA line up and thought team two woulf be fubared.
As it happens ou have a reasonable fight which the JSA still takes in a hard fought one. Combining Matthey and Alan's time manip alone gives them too much of an advantage
Um, Surfer, Thor and Strange's time manipulation?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, Surfer, Thor and Strange's time manipulation?
Matthew's time manipulation is greater then those three combined . He can literally devolve or alter a person to their weakest point in time at a thought. the only reason this didn't work on Mordu was their was no point in time he was weak enough.
When you add the fact that Alan has time manip equal to if not greater than SS. He has altered the flow of time on a planet that's existence threatened earth so that millions of years transpired in a very short time so he could eliminate the threat to earth without depriving the life forms on the planet of an existenc.
Fate has time manip equal to if not greater than Strange. To take down Black Adam he simply brought a Shazam magic bolt from a different point in time to the moment they were fighting. In a battle with Mordru he showed him his future.
Not to mention Obsidian's shadow form also "absorbs time" ( though this was more showcased through Ian Karkull who's power his stems from he has seen things about to happen). Plus Uncle Sam has shown mystical abilities including mild time manip ( he took a team to battle an attack on American soil after it had happened through a portal back in time).
When I said Matthew and Alan's time manip ALONE I meant without the added abilities of the rest of the team.
Originally posted by beatboks
I wouldn't be so quick to say Uncle Sam looses to Her TBH. he was an even match fir Baron Blitzcrieg and he could fight powered up GA Superman on close to even terms ( he was behind but not by that much). If all comes down to the level of patriotism and belief in America. lets not forget that on top of his strength and durability there's all his mental powers ( that granted he uses about as often as Thor pulls out what Mjilnor can do).i also wouldnt be so quick to give the battle between Wendell and Todd to Quasar. it is very close though, but Todd has soloed the entire JSA after all. depends on how closely linked to the shadow realms he is. After the fatherland ark ( where he was made into an egg) it was inferred he was back to peak power without the downfalls so who knows
So how do the fights breakdown to you?
Originally posted by beatboks
Matthew's time manipulation is greater then those three combined . He can literally devolve or alter a person to their weakest point in time at a thought. the only reason this didn't work on Mordu was their was no point in time he was weak enough.When you add the fact that Alan has time manip equal to if not greater than SS. He has altered the flow of time on a planet that's existence threatened earth so that millions of years transpired in a very short time so he could eliminate the threat to earth without depriving the life forms on the planet of an existenc.
Fate has time manip equal to if not greater than Strange. To take down Black Adam he simply brought a Shazam magic bolt from a different point in time to the moment they were fighting. In a battle with Mordru he showed him his future.
Not to mention Obsidian's shadow form also "absorbs time" ( though this was more showcased through Ian Karkull who's power his stems from he has seen things about to happen). Plus Uncle Sam has shown mystical abilities including mild time manip ( he took a team to battle an attack on American soil after it had happened through a portal back in time).
When I said Matthew and Alan's time manip [b]ALONE
I meant without the added abilities of the rest of the team. [/B]
Is that why time manipulation is usually banned? 🙄
