Batman vs Ozymandias

Combatants
-Ozymandias (Watchmen)
-Batman (Under The Red Hood)

Setting: Street where Smith and Neo fought at the climax of The Matrix Revolutions. It's dark and raining lightly.

Both are in their crimefighting suits but are totally unarmed. No utility belt or secret gadgets for Batman. Both characters are going for the kill but are not quite bloodlusted. Who takes this contest of H2H combat?

Batman. He was pretty uber in UtRH. But pretty much any cartoon version is going to have a leg up on live action.

This Batman wins

Veidt's bullet catch>Batman's dodge. If I had to pick who was more skilled I might say Batman. Seem to recall him using pressure points on Jason.

Originally posted by KingD19
Batman. He was pretty uber in UtRH. But pretty much any cartoon version is going to have a leg up on live action.

^ This. Cartoon version will almost always be more skilled/powerful (unless we're talking about Thor from Hulk vs).

Batman ftw

Batman wins no probs.

Under the Red Hood version wins in a stomp.

Game over man.....game over!

Probably the best version on screen of Batman.

What are Batman's feats here?

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
What are Batman's feats here?

1. Kicking ass

2. Taking names

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
What are Batman's feats here?

Superior combat skills.

Not counting gadgets is a massive disadvantage for Batman but he proved that he can keep the pace.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Batman wins no probs.

Under the Red Hood version wins in a stomp.

Game over man.....game over!

Probably the best version on screen of Batman.

While UTRH is my favorite of all the DC animated films and a solid film all around. I think he was even more uber in S/B Public Enemies, JL Doom and JL Crisis on Two Earths.

He's a bullet dodger for sure. He was beating the shit outta people with super powers(or were they just in super suits?). Either way he was holding his own against Amazo.

BTW didn't Joker survive a bomb going off in his face that took out a huge chunk of a buliding and just laugh about it?

The ninjas were cyborgs. But comparable to super humans, one picked up and threw a car. Amazo outright had superpowers from the JL members.

Joker thing was vague, it was implied he survived the bomb and the building crashing down.

Yeah Bats stomps

EDIT: Also i agree that Bats from Public Enemies was better but i dunno about the other two. Doom Bats wasn't nearly as impressive as Red Hood Bats imo

I'd have to re-watch Doom and Crisis to be certain.

isn't it safe to say that animated Batman destroys a lot of people?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
isn't it safe to say that animated Batman destroys a lot of people?

Yes. Problem is live action Bats wasn't as impressive as he could have been and is far inferior to most other live action comic characters.

That isn't a problem.

Batman should be far inferior to characters with super powers.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That isn't a problem.

Batman should be far inferior to characters with super powers.

Yet comic Batman isn't

He is, actually.

He's never defeated Superman in canon.