Josh_Alexander
Keeper of Cosmic Balance
Originally posted by zopzop
By the very nature of tHotU, Thanos stomps Michael into the ground.
Originally posted by quanchi112
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Originally posted by curryman
There's no "beating" the HOTU.
Originally posted by Galan007
I believe they wield the same overall power(the power of God), but Thanos could manipulate that power to his whim-- Michael could not(which is why Lucifer's will was required.) Heck, even if you credit Michael alone with the universal showing I posted above, it is still not a 'offensive' showing, thus doesn't matter in this battle either way.
Okay. Before stating a winner we need to understand the weapon held by Thanos.
The HOTU is a weapon that allows its weilder to become everyone and anything in the "MULTIVERSE". It is considered the power of God, because it basically makes the owner be on top of the Power Hierchy! As seen in the comic, Thanos killed the LT who is second to TOAA. So it means that the HOTU grants it's weilder power over any being in the MULTIVERSE.
The HOTU acts as a server in a way, in where the algorithms of all the beings within the MULTIVERSE/UNIVERSE is written, and in where THANOS/WIELDER is able to interact/modify/erase these algorithms. Like we saw in the comic, Thanos became everyone (Interacted) in the Multiverse, then he could Erase them (Modify/Erase) including the LT.
Now this makes perfect sence. Since TOAA created the Multiverse, and along it the LT. This means again that the HOTU affects every MULTIVERSAL being e.g (LT, Cosmic beings, sentient life, etc). Any form of life that exists within the Universe.
Now going back to the main topic. We need to ask ourselves if Michael is a MULTIVERSAL being? The answer is no! If am not mistaken The Presence created Michael and Lucifer before the Multiverse and therefore in this case the HOTU would have no effect on these organisms. In the same way, when Thanos grabbed the HOTU, it doesn't mean that he had power over beings that existed before or away from the MULTIVERSE. For instance, the Beyonders, i believe weren't affected by the HOTU since they form no part of the multiverse. TOAA is another example, Thanos didn't became TOAA when he grabbed the Heart, since TOAA isn't a multiversal being. Any other form of life alien to the Multiverse wouldn't be affected by the HOTU. \
E.G. Thanos HOTU vs The Beyonders: Beyonders win, since they aren't affected by the Heart. So HOTU is useless in this battle.
In another thread (Thanos HOTU vs Superman Armor) then yes Thanos would win, since when merging both universes (MARVEL nad DC), superman would fall at a Universal scale, since he was born within the universe/mulltiverse, and then no matter his power level would be affected by the HOTU.
In conclusion, the HOTU is so powerful because if affects any form of life within the universe/multiverse, but by it's own way of working is useless against any being who doesn't belong to that Multiverse/Universe. Michael wins this one.
(This doesn't mean that Michael is more powerful than other beings the Heart of the Universe erased like the Living Tribunal, but only means that he isn't affected by the HOTU and therefore can win this one).
