In reality, Neo-Smith is exponentially more powerful than the conditions of this thread. Neo-Smith entered the Marvel realm, but there is an entire universe full of Smiths behind that portal. The last being copied would be the most powerful and he hasn't crossed through the portal.
Smith could potentially be above low abstract level.
Originally posted by Lestov16
The [b]only possible defense I could think of is maybe Silver Surfer could muster all of his Galactus-killing energy to destroy Earth from orbit while everybody on Earth fights as a diversion. At least they would save the Bifrost 😬It's the only way to be sure....😛 [/B]
Well another theory would be that they just quarantine whatever continents Smith has already infected. Make sure no airplane or boat or ship leave that place. And then nuke them or get Surfer to annihilate said continents.
Oh wait, Smith can fly right? I wonder if he can fly fast and long enough to reach another island. NVM then.
I still think the best bet is to have Xavier hook up to cerebro and concentrate on all the Smiths and hope they're susceptible to psychic genocide.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Would Ghost Rider"s penance stare work on the Smith's?
I don't see why it shouldn't. After all we're assuming that Smith is human now. Same with telepaths, they should work on Smith.
The only problem here is the sheer volume of Smiths. Sure the penance stare would work, but how long does GR need to use that on someone? A minute? 30 secs? Plus you have to consider that each of these Smiths is powerful enough to knock GR flying. Heck they're fast enough to probably evade GR in the first place.
Telepathic attacks can work, but I don't know any telepath of controlling a whole continent's worth of population. Not to mention that all it would take to negate that telepath is one Smith who replicates himself on to another telepath.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't see why it shouldn't. After all we're assuming that Smith is human now. Same with telepaths, they should work on Smith.The only problem here is the sheer volume of Smiths. Sure the penance stare would work, but how long does GR need to use that on someone? A minute? 30 secs? Plus you have to consider that each of these Smiths is powerful enough to knock GR flying. Heck they're fast enough to probably evade GR in the first place.
Telepathic attacks can work, but I don't know any telepath of controlling a whole continent's worth of population. Not to mention that all it would take to negate that telepath is one Smith who replicate
himself on to another telepath.
If the Avengers can capture Smith, preferably the Neo-Smith,
wouldn't Blaze be able to have time to use the Penance Stare? All it took in Revolutions was to take out Neo-Smith and his demise led to the destruction of all the Smith clones. So, would the Stare filter down through all the Smith's, since they are interlinked...through a shared consciosness i suppose.
Ghost Rider + Xavier and Cerebro = some severe punishment.
Ghost Rider ain't going down.
And it was proven in the Animatrix that the machines had achieved sentient life. They are guilty if they invade the Marvel Universe. And nothing can stop the Rider for long. Even if he dies he returns. Anything he or his chains touches burns if they are guilty.
And the machines belong to a network. Not good for the machines.
If one brings Matrix physics into a foreign physical setting then the consequences should be equally as devastating.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Ghost Rider + Xavier and Cerebro = some severe punishment.Ghost Rider ain't going down.
And it was proven in the Animatrix that the machines had achieved sentient life. They are guilty if they invade the Marvel Universe. And nothing can stop the Rider for long. Even if he dies he returns. Anything he or his chains touches burns if they are guilty.
And the machines belong to a network. Not good for the machines.
If one brings Matrix physics into a foreign physical setting then the consequences should be equally as devastating.
Well yeah sure, GR can't be killed and I'm pretty sure his penance stare would work. Problem is, there's no way he can penance stare each and every Smith before these Smith's have converted the entire planet. After all, these Smiths can fly and are capable of superspeed.
X and Cerebro is the best chance they have. Now it's just a matter of whether X can differentiate between Smith, mutants, and humans. Otherwise if Smith has the same intellectual code as a human, X might end up killing humans as well.
I'm not even sure if a Smith can be killed. Wouldn't he just body-jump to another individual?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well yeah sure, GR can't be killed and I'm pretty sure his penance stare would work. Problem is, there's no way he can penance stare each and every Smith before these Smith's have converted the entire planet. After all, these Smiths can fly and are capable of superspeed.X and Cerebro is the best chance they have. Now it's just a matter of whether X can differentiate between Smith, mutants, and humans. Otherwise if Smith has the same intellectual code as a human, X might end up killing humans as well.
I'm not even sure if a Smith can be killed. Wouldn't he just body-jump to another individual?
Well it's absurd to assume Smith could achieve what he does in the physical plane amongst the Marvel Universe.
And if he could then Xavier within Cerebro would obliterate them.
Because psychic emanations have become physical in this fight.
Therefore Xavier's reach and powers can effect the whole army.
And mind wiping Agents means they can't jump from person to person.
So it's game over.
Otherwise Smith would have access to the entire Marvel Universes population to control and acquire.
Which he doesn't.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Well it's absurd to assume Smith could achieve what he does in the physical plane amongst the Marvel Universe.
And if he could then Xavier within Cerebro would obliterate them.
Because psychic emanations have become physical in this fight.
Therefore Xavier's reach and powers can effect the whole army.
And mind wiping Agents means they can't jump from person to person.So it's game over.
Otherwise Smith would have access to the entire Marvel Universes population to control and acquire.
Which he doesn't.
The question though is whether Smith's psychic emanations are different enough from humans such that Prof X can target only the Smiths while leaving the humans uninjured?
If we're considering the penance stare would work on the Smiths then we're considering that they're human enough for it to work. But are they still different enough from humans that Prof. X can selectively target them with Cerebro? After all, Cerebro only "saw" humans and mutants. It didn't see superpowered beings. They were just limited to humans and mutants.
Originally posted by FrothByte
The question though is whether Smith's psychic emanations are different enough from humans such that Prof X can target only the Smiths while leaving the humans uninjured?If we're considering the penance stare would work on the Smiths then we're considering that they're human enough for it to work. But are they still different enough from humans that Prof. X can selectively target them with Cerebro? After all, Cerebro only "saw" humans and mutants. It didn't see superpowered beings. They were just limited to humans and mutants.
Agents were limited to existing within the realm of possible physics within the Matrix. With the the bonus of transferring themselves amongst sentient beings like catching taxi cabs.
Smith absorbed Neo's potential and was able to duplicate himself and copy the feats of programs within the Matrix.
But he became limited because now he could only possess people via physical touch. Though the advantage was he could now multiply himself.
And that is it!
If for some reason the Marvel Universe in this OP's explanation is just another Matrix program for Smith to hack into and absorb.
He would be almost unstoppable....
Why?
He would acquire Adamantium quickly. And become invincible.
He would acquire mutants and absorb their powers.
He would acquire vampires and take on their speed and strength but none of their weaknesses. 🙂
In all honesty Xavier is Earth's only hope until we get a Dr Strange movie.
Galactus and the Surfer obliterate Earth destroying Smith with it.
It's overkill but inevitable.
I also wonder what stops Dark Phoenix from simply erasing all of the Smiths. It's not like she would be holding back from anything, but instead she would be embracing the Phoenix force fully. If she were able to dematerialize people instantaneously then...,whats stopping her from doing that to the Smiths?