Originally posted by ScreamPasteIt does not do what you think it does here. Link isn't some bodiless unhurt able guy.
Pushing what, exactly?We work with the information we have to the best of our ability. The information we have is limited, but we know some basic things. Those basic things we do know are the only things being used.
The triforce is present, and it does certain things.
Originally posted by BloodRainHe beats Link before he gets the chance to drain him via magic. Different levels of speed and power.
And I'm asking about why you don't think it would defeat him. With PostC it was because he in some way resisted MagicWarping, so why is 52 resisting it when he never has?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is where things get speculative. With it the complete loss of his body "shouldn't" even phase him. But that's based on what the ToP can do for Ganondorf.It stands to reason, given that the completed triforce is greater than the sum of its parts, that what a single piece can do the triforce can as well. If so, the complete annihilation of Link's body wouldn't be an inconvenience without some way to take away the triforce's power. But this is the realm of speculation. We have a good idea, but we're not 100% certain. It's more of a 75% kinda deal.
Maybe it's because it's still early for me but i don't think you answered if he could be knocked out as in unconscious and still alive. If you did and I misread then my bad. I'm not asking if he can die, there's no way he would die nor would Superman try to kill him. Does the triforce protect him from ice breath, does it protect him from being lobotomized, does it protect him from being removed from the battlefield, does it protect him from suffocation?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Talking about pre-chance has nothing to do with the question: Is Superman able to resist the magic of the Triforce.You answered this when thinking it was PostC..
If all it's done is warp a world and dropped an island on someone then I don't see why it would beat him. Can it even be used against someone who's not evil since it's a power of good? That being said, Superman has the first move in this fight so I don't see how Link would even have the time to use it against him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread is about Superman vs. composite Link not some theoretical discussion on the Triforce alone.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixBecause its still wish granting/reality warping magic with decent power backing. And with Supes, at least Nu52, having a humans magical resistance with no instances of him facing such magic.. I'd figure there'd be a legit reason as to why he'd resist it now. Its indiscriminate, any alignment can ask for any wish on any other alignment.
If all it's done is warp a world and dropped an island on someone then I don't see why it would beat him. Can it even be used against someone who's not evil since it's a power of good? That being said, Superman has the first move in this fight so I don't see how Link would even have the time to use it against him.
Keep in mind that I'm not suggesting that Link will be able to act first (hells no). What I/we have been saying from the beginning that if through some means, like in-character allowing the chance to happen, if Link managed to use the Triforce on Superman could that land him a win.
Originally posted by BloodRainI entertained the thought but I have since realized allowing this kind of theoretical discussion gives Zelda fans a pass on the actual thread. This I cannot allow.
You answered when you thought it was PostC 😕Because its still wish granting/reality warping magic with decent power backing. And with Supes, at least Nu52, having a humans magical resistance with no instances of him facing such magic.. I'd figure there'd be a legit reason as to why he'd resist it now. Its indiscriminate, any alignment can ask for any wish on any other alignment.
Keep in mind that I'm not suggesting that Link will be able to act first (hells no). What I/we have been saying from the beginning that if through some means, like in-character allowing the chance to happen, [b]if
Link managed to use the Triforce on Superman could that land him a win. [/B]
Superman took a magical blast in a recent comic that he believed would kill people that he'd just been fighting moments before.
It hurt him, but he survived, and ended up beating the bad guy moments later.
Magic, like kryptonite, isn't some sort of magic "I win" button against Superman.
That said, I know **** all about the Tri Force, and Link in general.
Originally posted by quanchi112Except that even if the result was that the Trifoce > Supes, even Scream would admit that an Omni-Link would lose unless some in-character reason somehow gave Link an opening. A tiny chance on top of a small possibility.
I entertained the thought but I have since realized allowing this kind of theoretical discussion gives Zelda fans a pass on the actual thread. This I cannot allow.
Originally posted by -Pr-Not an auto-win, but its just that "no special resistance" window. And in this case it wouldnt need to be a blast or physical attack, what with its reality warping.
Superman took a magical blast in a recent comic that he believed would kill people that he'd just been fighting moments before.It hurt him, but he survived, and ended up beating the bad guy moments later.
Magic, like kryptonite, isn't some sort of magic "I win" button against Superman.
That said, I know **** all about the Tri Force, and Link in general.
Admittedly no tangible attack formed by the Triforce would have a chance of defeating Supes :T
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Maybe it's because it's still early for me but i don't think you answered if he could be knocked out as in unconscious and still alive. If you did and I misread then my bad. I'm not asking if he can die, there's no way he would die nor would Superman try to kill him. Does the triforce protect him from ice breath, does it protect him from being lobotomized, does it protect him from being removed from the battlefield, does it protect him from suffocation?
We know it should, but since there's never been an instance of Link using the combined triforce in combat, it's speculative. It's so powerful that you'd need an asinine powerful villain with contractual boss immunity to have that happen.
With the completed Triforce completely destroying Link's body should not KO him. Suffocating him should not KO him, he could escape being frozen by phasing through the ice or teleporting (Phasing through physical objects at least we have seen.) Destroying his frontal lobes shouldn't matter, because he 'shouldn't need a physical body at all.
The trouble is while we know the triforce should do this, Link's body has never been damaged while he had it. Hence the [/speculation] tags in my early posts on the matter.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixThe triforce makes no judgements about the alignment of its user, it just weighs their balance of power, wisdom, and courage, and if one is too highly favoured it splits, denying the one who touched it their wish unless they can gather the other two parts from within two others chosen by the triforce. When Ganondorf touched it in OoT this happened and Link and Zelda received courage and wisdom respectively.
If all it's done is warp a world and dropped an island on someone then I don't see why it would beat him. Can it even be used against someone who's not evil since it's a power of good? That being said, Superman has the first move in this fight so I don't see how Link would even have the time to use it against him.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman took a magical blast in a recent comic that he believed would kill people that he'd just been fighting moments before.It hurt him, but he survived, and ended up beating the bad guy moments later.
Magic, like kryptonite, isn't some sort of magic "I win" button against Superman.
That said, I know **** all about the Tri Force, and Link in general.
Anyone who entered the sacred realm, now the Dark World would be changed into whatever their heart most resembled. Ganondorf took the form of a great, grotesque pig, Link became a freakin' bunny, though I think TP retconned this to a wolf.
The triforce in Zelda can be used to do Anything(TM) within it's own power, that's its' entire purpose, to grant the desires of whoever holds it. Single pieces have granted powerful versatile magic that can do everything from casting the world into perpetual night and polymorphing others to becoming intangible and shooting lightning from your hands. The whole is much greater than the sum of its' parts, and only with all three pieces do you get the powerful reality warping.
Was the magical attack Supes took a physically damaging one? I'd expect him to be able to handle that even if it was magic because the guy's durability is massive.
Superman wins.
Kryptonite arrows don't mean shit here, Superman would tool Link just as easily as he tooled a Kryptonite-wielding Batman in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel.
The Triforce will be ineffective against a guy whose on-panel showings dwarf those of the goddesses the Triforce derives its power from.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman wins.Kryptonite arrows don't mean shit here, Superman would tool Link just as easily as he tooled a Kryptonite-wielding Batman in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel.
The Triforce will be ineffective against a guy whose on-panel showings dwarf those of the goddesses the Triforce derives its power from.