Link (Legend of Zelda) vs. Superman (DC Universe)

Started by ScreamPaste20 pages

Quan, I'm going to let you in on a secret. I wasn't going to tell you this originally because I thought it'd be more fun if you didn't know... BUt everytime you do something on this list: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/
I take a drink.

Have some ****ing mercy, man. haermm At this rate I'll be shittered within minutes.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Quan, I'm going to let you in on a secret. I wasn't going to tell you this originally because I thought it'd be more fun if you didn't know... BUt everytime you do something on this list: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/
I take a drink.

Have some ****ing mercy, man. haermm At this rate I'll be shittered within minutes.

You lack self control. You are weak.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
I'm opting out on this thread, I dunno enough about either to make a fair decision. Ill just go with whoever can make the best egg omelet.

Probably Supes. He lives in a modern era, so he'll have access to new information. Recipes, and whatnot. Hahaha.

Anyways, here's what I can tell about both.

Superman:

+ Unquestionable physical superiority
+ Generally smarter
+ Powers come naturally
+ Requires no weapons
+ Can draw power from undeletable source
- Possesses well-known, fatally debilitative weaknesses
- Apprehensive towards conflict; reluctant to cause damage
- No defenses against magic

Link:

+ Several lifetimes of experience
+ Capable of analyzing opponents to find their weaknesses
+ Support items significantly boost capabilities
+ Fewer personal inhibitions; has no qualms about doing harm
+ Can manipulate the flow of time and potentially reality
- Far less natural physical contingency
- Greatly reliant on inventory
- More accustomed to taking on evil enemies

Does this help?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So what's stopping link from just using the cane of byrna?

If Link doesn't have the full triforce, Superman killing him, unless this fight is in character I guess, in which case it's unlikely he'll actually go for the blitz early on because CIS. But I'm not sure if the cane can actually defend Link from someone that strong, honestly. It doesn't have the feats to suggest it can. mmm The cape would be better, since intangibility.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So what's stopping link from just using the cane of byrna?
Superman's reflexes/ speed. One strike and bye bye Link.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If Link doesn't have the full triforce, Superman killing him, unless this fight is in character I guess, in which case it's unlikely he'll actually go for the blitz early on because CIS. But I'm not sure if the cane can actually defend Link from someone that strong, honestly. It doesn't have the feats to suggest it can. mmm The cape would be better, since intangibility.

I'm unfamiliar with the cane, but this fight is in character, which also means they aren't going to kill each other. You are right. It is fun to think about.

How do reflexes beat the cane?

What does the cane do?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm unfamiliar with the cane, but this fight is in character, which also means they aren't going to kill each other. You are right. It is fun to think about.

Does Link get the full triforce, or should I stop speculating?

Technically, he gets three full triforces.

The cane of byrna protects link from all damage as well as harming anything that gets close.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Technically, he gets three full triforces.

The cane of byrna protects link from all damage as well as harming anything that gets close.


It would need better feats to be able to say it would protect Link from Superman, otherwise we'd be claiming a no-limit fallacy.

That said, if he has the full triforce, **** the cane.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Does Link get the full triforce, or should I stop speculating?

Yes, because it's Omni-Link.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Technically, he gets three full triforces.

The cane of byrna protects link from all damage as well as harming anything that gets close.

So... reflexes do nothing.

I guess supes could take the cane from link before he uses it, but of he has no resistance to magic, it's gonna hurt getting that close.

[speculation]
With the completed triforce and a bag full of kryptonite on his person, Superman shouldn't be able to kill Link. Link turns him into a horse and rides him home. Or something.

This is based on the ToP making bodies less than necessary, and making the owner functionally immortal without special means on hand to put them down or kill them. Extrapolating this to what the completed triforce could do for Link points to punches and kicks possibly destroying his body but not killing him or even incapacitating him.
[/speculation]

If he has the triforce and used the four sword, would there be 4 triforces? Or just four guys who take energy from one triforce?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
If he has the triforce and used the four sword, would there be 4 triforces? Or just four guys who take energy from one triforce?

The Four Sword hasn't shown itself powerful enough to duplicate something like the triforce, so going with four dudes powered by one. But Link with the whole thing could likely duplicate himself without it. Lel. It'd duplicate the kryptonite arrows, though.

This is just speculative extrapolation, but based on the fire arrow technicality in OoT, aren't Link's arrows technically faster than Superman? Just curious.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
This is just speculative extrapolation, but based on the fire arrow technicality in OoT, aren't Link's arrows technically faster than Superman? Just curious.

No. Superman is FTL, Link's arrows in OoT would be hypersonic, escape velocity is mach 11. And Supes is not only 'a little' FTL, he's very FTL. He's able to travel light years in fairly short time periods. (Krypton was some light years from Earth, forget exact number, for example, and he's been to where it was on more than one occasion.)

Even with the whole triforce, unless Link stops time (which he should be able to do) Supes will be much, much faster than him. He just 'shouldn't' be able to do any permanent damage to Link because he has no magical means at his disposal to overcome the immortality it should give him.

Again, this is mostly guesswork. And to be clear, without the Triforce Supes would still take this with ease.

Link doesn't need the triforce to stop time, and I think his magical defenses could at least handle a few superpunches.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Link doesn't need the triforce to stop time, and I think his magical defenses could at least handle a few superpunches.

Composite Link has multiple means of time control without the Triforce, but with it he should be able to stop time on a whim or at least enhance his existing abilities.

Without it, I doubt his defensive items will be worth much, Link's never taken a punch that can crack a planet before, that's the sort of feat we'd need for those to be useful against Supes. It's better to rely on things like the Magic Cape's intangibility.

Without the triforce Supes is simply too fast and too powerful, imho.