Sundipped Superman VS Champion(Power Gem) (H2H)

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has claimed to be able to shatter planets with his punches. His statement is supported by the multiple feats of him providing more than 50 Earth weights of force. It takes less than one Earth weight of force to destroy a planet.

Bottom line : If it takes a certain amount of force to do something and a character has exerted more than that amount of force doing something else then they can do that something.

Lulz.

Champion knocks him out

Originally posted by JBL
So you base your case off of claims and statements to support your stand? Is the so-called " 50 earth weight of force " a calculation of your? I would like to see the feat or feats myself, but as i know, they dont exist so lets move on to the big story. The power gem gives the user access to all the power that ever was and ever will be. Champion has the gem in this fight. Now superman is sundipped, so are you or anyone else telling this board that sundipping gives superman access to greater power than the gem? If these two fight h2h, Champion would wreck superman. He would wreck him in any kind of battle. I have a question for you or any superman fan. Does sundipping give more power and abilities than the power gem?

You are arguing potential and not practically.
It took Champion a very long time just to get enough strength to cause a chain reaction in a planet. Champion was hitting Thanos shield and wasn't doing anything to the surroundings. Hell DoS Superman was shattering the city with his punches on DD. Also Thanos was beating on him like a chump.

Here is a feat for you. "MAGEDDON". No calculation needed.
There are others. But you should know of that one right?

Lastly, sundipped Superman overpowered thousands of galaxies of power. So this thread is spite really. Champion who doesn't have planet-busting power initially is pitted against a being who's power is well beyond a skyfather.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Meh.

Sundipped Superman would wreck him IMHO.

But the power gem tardness will make this a clustter****, so **** that I'm quitting.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are arguing potential and not practically.
It took Champion a very long time just to get enough strength to cause a chain reaction in a planet. Champion was hitting Thanos shield and wasn't doing anything to the surroundings. Hell DoS Superman was shattering the city with his punches on DD. Also Thanos was beating on him like a chump.

Here is a feat for you. "MAGEDDON". No calculation needed.
There are others. But you should know of that one right?

Lastly, sundipped Superman overpowered thousands of galaxies of power. So this thread is spite really. Champion who doesn't have planet-busting power initially is pitted against a being who's power is well beyond a skyfather.

Originally posted by JBL
No. You have to do better than that my friend. I can do the same as in "SHADOW MOON". No calculation needed. There are others. But you should know of that one right?

What does shadow moon has to do with that?

But we are discussing sundipped Superman. You can't get around the thousands of galaxies of power.

As someone that's only seen his fight with Thanos, what other feats does Champion have with the power gem?

Originally posted by -Pr-
As someone that's only seen his fight with Thanos, what other feats does Champion have with the power gem?

In boxing matches.

He also overpowered Hulk, Thor, Namor, and a bunch of others when he didn't have the gem. That's gotta be thousands of galaxies worth of force.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Smashed Gladiator, Beta, Warlock and Drax. Also beat Surfer off panel.

In boxing matches.

He also overpowered Hulk, Thor, Namor, and a bunch of others when he didn't have the gem. That's gotta be thousands of galaxies worth of force.

That's pretty damn impressive.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's pretty damn impressive.

As for the Thanos fight, he was clearly more powerful than Thanos was at the time.

If I had to give a power level, he'd probably be around WM Thor when Thor had the Gem, although a bit more skilled. Meh.

I don't know how powerful that Thor was 🙁

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't understand you. MAGEDDON dwarfed the Earth moon system.

What does shadow moon has to do with that?

But we are discussing sundipped Superman. You can't get around the thousands of galaxies of power.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't know how powerful that Thor was 🙁

It's the same one who was gaining an edge on Thanos, and who smashed the Infinity Watch along with Surfer and Dr Strange.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Sure you do.

It's the same one who was gaining an edge on Thanos, and who smashed the Infinity Watch along with Surfer and Dr Strange.

Oh, that does sound familiar.

Originally posted by JBL
Understood. But answer this question. Does sundipping give superman more power than the power gem could?

Based off feats yes.
Based off statements no.

But that is irrelevant since the rate in which Champion taps into the gem is almost non existent. It would take him probably a hella long time to reach sundipped levels.

Potential is meaningless if it remains untapped.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Smashed Gladiator, Beta, Warlock and Drax. Also beat Surfer off panel.

In boxing matches.

He also overpowered Hulk, Thor, Namor, and a bunch of others when he didn't have the gem. That's gotta be thousands of galaxies worth of force.

No one Champion has beaten comes close to sundipped Superman. Didn't she hulk beat him in a boxing match?

Champion with the gem is roughly the same as without the gem until he gets frustrated and angrier. In other words, the gem adds nothing unless Champion gets angrier.

Overpowering Hulk. Impressive but weak sauce on this level.
Overpowering Thor. Same thing
Overpowering Namor. Yawn

You bringing up She-Hulk weakens your argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
No one Champion has beaten comes close to sundipped Superman. Didn't she hulk beat him in a boxing match?

Champion with the gem is roughly the same as without the gem until he gets frustrated and angrier. In other words, the gem adds nothing unless Champion gets angrier.

Overpowering Hulk. Impressive but weak sauce on this level.
Overpowering Thor. Same thing
Overpowering Namor. Yawn

That She-Hulk incident is an abomination that should never be referenced! 😠

Originally posted by h1a8
No one Champion has beaten comes close to sundipped Superman. Didn't she hulk beat him in a boxing match?

Champion with the gem is roughly the same as without the gem until he gets frustrated and angrier. In other words, the gem adds nothing unless Champion gets angrier.

Overpowering Hulk. Impressive but weak sauce on this level.
Overpowering Thor. Same thing
Overpowering Namor. Yawn

That's a blatant lie. Go ahead and prove that one though if you want. I have evidence to the contrary though.

You literally don't even care about the context, you just want to lowball.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2r28zr8.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2q3r5zp.jpg

Whoops, I directly responded to you. This post is now officially directed towards Paul. You lowballer you.